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From: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
To: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
Cc: Spectrum OS Development <devel@spectrum-os.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 17:27:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0c96ea29-ecf8-416e-b1d6-4b3e1c2371e6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fd7b6b83-2ab9-45ad-b08d-22b39647a7d0@gmail.com>


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On 7/16/25 17:16, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> On 7/14/25 10:54, Alyssa Ross wrote:
>> Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> WirePlumber is completely overkill as a session manager here, and
>>> ideally a trivial session manager would be used instead.  I did build a
>>> Spectrum OS image and found that PipeWire and WirePlumber both
>>> successfully started.  PipeWire is configured to listen on the
>>> PulseAudio socket, so PulseAudio compatibility works.  This does inject
>>> a large number of completely unnecessary files into the VM, notably for
>>> libcamera and Bluetooth support.
>>
>> Yeah, I saw this in the log:
>>
>> N 14:27:54.810067 wp-internal-comp-l ../lib/wp/private/internal-comp-loader.c:588:on_component_loaded: <WpCore:0x28d95d30> optional component 'support.logind [module: libwireplumber-module-logind]' failed to load: failed to start systemd logind monitor: -2 (No such file or directory)
>> N 14:27:54.811299 wp-internal-comp-l ../lib/wp/private/internal-comp-loader.c:640:wp_component_array_load_task_execute_step: <WpCore:0x28d95d30> skipping component 'monitor.bluez.seat-monitoring [virtual]' because some of its dependencies were not loaded
>> E 14:27:54.851210           spa.dbus ../spa/plugins/support/dbus.c:333:impl_connection_get: Failed to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
>> E 14:27:54.852143         spa.bluez5 ../spa/plugins/bluez5/bluez5-dbus.c:6632:impl_init: failed to get dbus connection
>> N 14:27:54.855904          wp-device ../lib/wp/device.c:710:wp_spa_device_new_from_spa_factory: SPA handle 'api.bluez5.enum.dbus' could not be loaded; is it installed?
>> N 14:27:54.856657         s-monitors bluez.lua:411:createMonitor: PipeWire's BlueZ SPA plugin is missing or broken. Bluetooth devices will not be supported.
>> E 14:27:54.859091    spa.bluez5.midi ../spa/plugins/bluez5/midi-enum.c:805:impl_init: Creating GDBus connection failed: Could not connect: No such file or directory
>> N 14:27:54.859810          wp-device ../lib/wp/device.c:710:wp_spa_device_new_from_spa_factory: SPA handle 'api.bluez5.midi.enum' could not be loaded; is it installed?
>> N 14:27:54.860524         s-monitors bluez-midi.lua:95:createMonitor: PipeWire's BlueZ MIDI SPA missing or broken. Bluetooth not supported.
>> E 14:27:54.861346 spa.bluez5.midi.no ../spa/plugins/bluez5/midi-node.c:1989:impl_init: failed to get dbus connection: Could not connect: No such file or directory
>> E 14:27:54.862435        pw.resource ../src/pipewire/resource.c:255:pw_resource_errorf_id: can't create node: Input/output error
>> W 14:27:54.863275            wp-node ../lib/wp/node.c:913:wp_impl_node_new_from_pw_factory: failed to create node from factory 'spa-node-factory'
>> N 14:27:54.863965         s-monitors bluez-midi.lua:130:createServers: Failed to create BLE MIDI server.
>> [0:00:01.314658075] [123]  INFO IPAManager ipa_manager.cpp:137 libcamera is not installed. Adding '/nix/store/src/ipa' to the IPA search path
>> [0:00:01.321611889] [123]  INFO Camera camera_manager.cpp:326 libcamera v0.5.0
>>
>> Can we set something in a config file or something to disable this extra
>> stuff?
> I'm working on it, but I ran into a problem: I can't install vim in the guest!
> Adding it to the list of packages doesn't work; I still don't have a Vim binary
> in the guest.  Without that, I have to rebuild the VM every time I want to make
> a change, which makes it very hard to iterate while I figure out how to make
> PipeWire talk to an emulated virtio-sound device QEMU provides.

Deleting the build directory causes the image to be rebuilt.
-- 
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-16 21:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-11  2:44 [PATCH v3] Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-14 14:54 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-15 20:22   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-16 10:26     ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-16 21:16   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-16 21:27     ` Demi Marie Obenour [this message]
2025-07-18 12:16       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-17  5:53   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-18 10:02     ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-18 10:19       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-18  2:07 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Sound support in Spectrum VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-18  2:13   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] Rebuild the root filesystem when the makefile changes Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-18 11:14     ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-18  2:13   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] Fix permissions on /tmp Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-18 11:51     ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-18 11:51     ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-18 11:53     ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-18  2:14   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-18 11:27     ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-18 17:59       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-19  9:22         ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-19 20:05           ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-19  8:06     ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-19 20:03       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-19 20:07         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-20  7:50           ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-20 17:58   ` [PATCH v5 0/8] Sound support in Spectrum VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-20 18:02     ` [PATCH v5 1/8] Revert "img/app: fix permissions on /tmp" Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-21  9:34       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-20 18:03     ` [PATCH v5 2/8] img/app: Use separate service to create directories Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-21  9:21       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-22 23:48         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-20 18:04     ` [PATCH v5 3/8] img/app: Fix permissions of /tmp/.X11-unix Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-20 18:05     ` [PATCH v5 4/8] img/app: Create other X11 directories Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-21  9:23       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-21 19:03         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-20 18:06     ` [PATCH v5 5/8] img/app: Be explicit about directory modes Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-20 18:08     ` [PATCH v5 6/8] img/app: create /run/user and /run/wait very early in boot Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-21  9:23       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-20 18:10     ` [PATCH v5 7/8] host/rootfs: " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-20 18:11     ` [PATCH v5 8/8] img/app: Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-21  9:42       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-21 19:09         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-26 10:11           ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-21 19:10         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-24 22:15     ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Sound support in Spectrum VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-24 22:30       ` [PATCH v6 1/5] host/rootfs: Create /run/user and /run/wait via run-image Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-26 10:46         ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-24 22:32       ` [PATCH v6 2/5] img/app: " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-24 22:33       ` [PATCH v6 3/5] img/app: tell mount(8) to create directories Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-26 11:20         ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-26 11:26         ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-24 22:35       ` [PATCH v6 4/5] img/app: Create needed directories in early boot Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-26 10:24         ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-27 20:13           ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-24 22:36       ` [PATCH v6 5/5] img/app: Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-26 11:29         ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-26 10:57       ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Sound support in Spectrum VMs Alyssa Ross
2025-07-28  5:57       ` [PATCH v7 0/2] " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-28  6:01         ` [PATCH v7 1/2] img/app: Create needed directories in early boot Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-28  6:03         ` [PATCH v7 2/2] img/app: Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-28  6:18           ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-28 23:13         ` [PATCH v8 0/2] Sound support in Spectrum VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-29  0:32           ` [PATCH v9 " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-29  0:33             ` [PATCH v9 1/2] img/app: Create needed directories in early boot Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-29 12:44               ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-29  0:33             ` [PATCH v9 2/2] img/app: Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-29 13:08               ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-29 21:17                 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-30  8:10                   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-30  9:59             ` [PATCH v10] " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-31  9:12               ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-31  9:40               ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-31 17:06               ` [PATCH v11] " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-08-01 17:53                 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-08-02  7:54                 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-28 23:13         ` [PATCH v8 1/2] img/app: Create needed directories in early boot Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-28 23:19           ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-28 23:13         ` [PATCH v8 2/2] img/app: Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-29 12:41         ` [PATCH v7 0/2] Sound support in Spectrum VMs Alyssa Ross
2025-07-24 22:23     ` [PATCH v6 1/5] host/rootfs: Create /run/user and /run/wait via run-image Demi Marie Obenour

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