From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.3 (2019-12-06) on atuin.qyliss.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.3 Received: by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 496) id 8DA1233F8B; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 23:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8A033F66; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 23:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 496) id C990533EEA; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 23:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12CFC33F56 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 23:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2540C5C00EC; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 18:54:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 29 Nov 2020 18:54:20 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alyssa.is; h= from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; s=fm1; bh=zjX9Wn4AaLHyN RXs+9y3V+w0dJVYq/UMR3AGKr76hM8=; b=oaH0vnPSSmwC1ZU6SJ0rnN381Wwke tsIcyphozqk9Bp+agig2D4tM0Oiu7DOy8tvdxvVZEVFhe/7VSvxSWFDWVHPu0/AN u0C5HyTqzm9Eq1RFghSXaqGrROOK7rcd5xlnk7UL/f8Q9/BqcL6QKcHt/1OtrnVB nNIV9lfAqffsnqfV+G1tlkNdCTPzGtxMZpeHs4nXEKnw9gE2NNVAcxCxPMMfum0r zIsverI4GpuC1u0r3q18g7/hYfmI60N/ZOOlveOdE+ubiKz1dOtOLzK6I+ixSw6g 5wi3d3skttLnbwZmgEAxgFR1Bo/Rd2J9A/Qt5BmTe0A5PeVe7diMM51cw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:date:from :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to :x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm1; bh=zjX9Wn4AaLHyNRXs+9y3V+w0dJVYq/UMR3AGKr76hM8=; b=lDTK1vcF JO3m3Gk85vJNWK14OCChNo81QkJcCkye635jzeOF979w5oh5J6u7/jiqMz+Dyq5E lIVHRaBKyd/fG5UK+OQf2jlNmgN6e8F3ZS2jLKwVOY4Wo8WRCtm+LqONTFEm3VLZ NKyTxKdnJRQZd2aOezaux2dFuYJmot24szMjAE8NIFWStmWaJuC86SQz8M4tt668 XHGSPs5iWpc7airAEvl/yLoKXcsbcSV6P7O6BtcJSqofd23x+zCXpT7LVAo9GhLq zaGHZOu4cdQSw/6FScC/HWUwCHLPDKKcZAXmm1vllL+0Vjv/oZjOMRHAvL9+fjE4 LiEHX3wjUxkBsA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedujedrudehledgudegucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhephffvufffkffojghfggfgsedtkeertdertddtnecuhfhrohhmpeetlhihshhs rgcutfhoshhsuceohhhisegrlhihshhsrgdrihhsqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpefgfe dukedvleeileeludefveehgeelgfegvddujedvtdffueeuveffheeljeekvdenucfkphep geeirdektddrudefvddrkeefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpe hmrghilhhfrhhomhepqhihlhhishhssegvvhgvrdhqhihlihhsshdrnhgvth X-ME-Proxy: Received: from eve.qyliss.net (p2e508453.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [46.80.132.83]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 030AC328005D; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 18:54:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by eve.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0722AC18; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 23:54:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Alyssa Ross To: devel@spectrum-os.org, Michael Raskin <7c6f434c@mail.ru> Subject: [PATCH www 3/1] design.html: mention goal of diverse build hardware Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 23:54:02 +0000 Message-Id: <20201129235402.28711-1-hi@alyssa.is> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.27.0 In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: OD67723VEK4BIRD52WIPWZH4LGRUDRA5 X-Message-ID-Hash: OD67723VEK4BIRD52WIPWZH4LGRUDRA5 X-MailFrom: qyliss@eve.qyliss.net X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-config-1; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header CC: Molly Miller X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and low-level development discussion Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Thanks-to: Michael Raskin <7c6f434c@mail.ru> --- design.html | 16 ++++++++-------- 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) diff --git a/design.html b/design.html index 285d743..a126bee 100644 --- a/design.html +++ b/design.html @@ -151,14 +151,14 @@ anybody currently working on Spectrum but would be = a very welcome contribution. =20

-Ideally, all Spectrum packages, for all architectures, would be built on -POWER9 hardware. Even if a user has to trust the x86_64 computer -available to them, anti-freedom firmware, undocumented backdoors and -all, they would be able to benefit from binary packages that were -built on trustworthy hardware without these limitations. -Unfortunately, preliminary research has shown that x86_64 -virtualization on POWER9 is not currently sufficiantly performant for -this to be feasible. +Ideally, all Spectrum packages, for all architectures, would be built +on diverse hardware including a platform with POWER9's level of +openness. Even if a user has to trust the x86_64 computer available +to them, anti-freedom firmware, undocumented backdoors and all, they +would be able to benefit from binary packages that were built on +trustworthy hardware without these limitations. Unfortunately, +preliminary research has shown that x86_64 virtualization on POWER9 is +not currently sufficiantly performant for this to be feasible. =20

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