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boundary="------------FUD0CieKGmZZrHqsdDPF0Ore"; protected-headers="v1" From: Demi Marie Obenour To: Alyssa Ross , Spectrum OS Development Message-ID: <24cc36e1-09e8-43c9-8503-c3125aee0aef@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs References: <6ab772e0-62b0-430f-8d3c-0bba79a3282c@gmail.com> <25197dbe-d642-4283-80b7-be66dcc4f4eb@gmail.com> <87ikjor4ep.fsf@alyssa.is> <222cdb3a-d4df-4bce-98d4-7b9bae517256@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <222cdb3a-d4df-4bce-98d4-7b9bae517256@gmail.com> --------------FUD0CieKGmZZrHqsdDPF0Ore Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------54WDSVRDJUl0WYOvojAVQHEl" --------------54WDSVRDJUl0WYOvojAVQHEl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/19/25 16:03, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > On 7/19/25 04:06, Alyssa Ross wrote: >> Demi Marie Obenour writes: >> >>> diff --git a/img/app/Makefile b/img/app/Makefile >>> index d81337f99e2e83cf03ac73b9fc96fae6ce118537..691db75c287294104bb2f= a332e002792bfa61f6e 100644 >>> --- a/img/app/Makefile >>> +++ b/img/app/Makefile >>> @@ -135,7 +152,7 @@ start-virtiofsd: scripts/start-virtiofsd.elb >>> .PHONY: start-virtiofsd >>> =20 >>> run-qemu: $(imgdir)/appvm/blk/root.img start-vhost-user-net start-vi= rtiofsd >>> - @../../scripts/run-qemu.sh -m 256 -cpu host -kernel $(KERNEL) -vga = none \ >>> + @../../scripts/run-qemu.sh -m 256 -kernel $(KERNEL) -vga none \ >> >> Why this change? >=20 > Otherwise the script fails with TCG, but it seems to fail anyway due to= > rutabaga issues in what is probably an untested configuration. I'll > get another machine to do testing with KVM enabled. >=20 >>> -drive file=3D$(imgdir)/appvm/blk/root.img,if=3Dvirtio,format=3D= raw,readonly=3Don \ >>> -append "root=3DPARTLABEL=3Droot nokaslr" \ >>> -gdb unix:build/gdb.sock,server,nowait \ >>> @@ -151,7 +168,8 @@ run-qemu: $(imgdir)/appvm/blk/root.img start-vhos= t-user-net start-virtiofsd >>> -parallel none \ >>> -chardev vc,id=3Dvirtiocon0 \ >>> -device virtio-serial-pci \ >>> - -device virtconsole,chardev=3Dvirtiocon0 >>> + -device virtconsole,chardev=3Dvirtiocon0 \ >>> + -audio driver=3Dpipewire,model=3Dvirtio >> >> Let's group this with the fs and gpu arguments? More similar to them >> than the console. Also, would it be better to use the pa driver, so i= t >> can be tested on systems that don't have PipeWire yet? There shouldn'= t >> be any downside, right? >=20 > Will fix in v5. I wrote too soon: the pa driver fails if PipeWire is in use, as it expect= s "$XDG_RUNTIME_DIR/native/pid" to exist and pipewire-pulse doesn't create = it. 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