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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/29/26 10:15, Alyssa Ross wrote: > Demi Marie Obenour writes: >=20 >> On 7/27/26 08:20, Alyssa Ross wrote: >>> Demi Marie Obenour writes: >>> >>>> Signed-off-by: Demi Marie Obenour >>>> --- >>>> host/rootfs/file-list.mk | 1 + >>>> host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/finish | 5 +++++ >>>> host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/run | 5 +++-- >>>> 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) >>>> >>>> diff --git a/host/rootfs/file-list.mk b/host/rootfs/file-list.mk >>>> index e3411d40014342e67071a48f9e1c7bc7b3954bcf..065571ef3a5c61fa79a1= d2ed878052a5f391be96 100644 >>>> --- a/host/rootfs/file-list.mk >>>> +++ b/host/rootfs/file-list.mk >>>> @@ -106,6 +106,7 @@ S6_RC_FILES =3D \ >>>> image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd-coldplug/dependencies.d/systemd-udev= d \ >>>> image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd-coldplug/type \ >>>> image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd-coldplug/up \ >>>> + image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/finish \ >>>> image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/notification-fd \ >>>> image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/run \ >>>> image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/type \ >>>> diff --git a/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/finish b/host= /rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/finish >>>> new file mode 100755 >>>> index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4d5b454e97c3584d0644= c2d738514f13b1c53957 >>>> --- /dev/null >>>> +++ b/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/finish >>>> @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ >>>> +#!/usr/bin/execlineb -WS3 >>>> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: EUPL-1.2+ >>>> +# SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2026 Demi Marie Obenour >>>> + >>>> +cgroup-s6-finish $@ >>>> diff --git a/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/run b/host/ro= otfs/image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/run >>>> old mode 100644 >>>> new mode 100755 >>>> index aec6444e951503eae988e666b77fda8f2ae33d72..901f3e6667a8de04a6af= 39945406a1757455f089 >>>> --- a/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/run >>>> +++ b/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/run >>>> @@ -1,7 +1,8 @@ >>>> -#!/bin/execlineb -WP >>>> +#!/bin/execlineb -WS1 >>>> # SPDX-License-Identifier: EUPL-1.2+ >>>> # SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2025 Demi Marie Obenour >>>> -s6-setlock /run/sd-notify-wrapper/systemd-udevd.lock >>>> + >>>> +cgroup-setup --delegate --child-name udev -- $1 >>>> s6-ipcserver-socketbinder -b0 -m -a 0600 /run/sd-notify-wrapper/sys= temd-udevd.sock >>>> background -d { >>>> fdmove 1 3 >>>> >>> >>> Is there a reason not to always enable delegation? Is there a reason= we >>> need to set the name here? >> >> --delegate only sets the user.delegate=3D1 xattr used by systemd. >> Programs that are systemd-aware and manage their own cgroups check thi= s >> xattr to see if a cgroup has been delegated by systemd. The kernel >> and other programs do not care. >=20 > Right, but why can't we just always set user.delegate=3D1? Would we ev= er > have a program that checked it that we didn't want to manage its own > cgroups? It's slightly wasteful (extra syscall) but harmless. >> systemd-udevd.service uses the "udev" name, so I decided to also use i= t >> for consistency. >=20 > Is this the only reason we even need a --child-name feature? If so, it= > doesn't seem well justified to me unless it actually affects something.= I'd prefer to stick with what systemd uses, as that is what is tested. 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