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From: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
To: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
Cc: Spectrum OS Development <devel@spectrum-os.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] host/rootfs: Switch to systemd-udevd
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2025 16:56:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871pntcle4.fsf@alyssa.is> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5e6bd5d5-a6b3-43f4-8cfd-dc68b432d2ea@gmail.com>

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Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:

> On 9/25/25 06:53, Alyssa Ross wrote:
>> Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> diff --git a/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/kvm/up b/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/kvm/up
>>> index c02e3f90245e005b98b4de8245a1863fb49c1158..a8436de58580f2a2a6f42bb69418a319f967df47 100644
>>> --- a/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/kvm/up
>>> +++ b/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/kvm/up
>>> @@ -1,4 +1,3 @@
>>>  # SPDX-License-Identifier: EUPL-1.2+
>>> -# SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2023 Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
>>> -
>>> -/etc/mdev/wait kvm
>>> +# SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2025 Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
>>> +udevadm wait /dev/kvm
>> 
>> Any reason now not to just inline this into the services that need to wait?
>
> Avoiding redundant calls I guess?  I'm not
> sure how expensive 'udevadm wait' is.

Then let's drop the service and see if it becomes a problem.  I suspect
it won't.

>>> diff --git a/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/run b/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/run
>>> new file mode 100644
>>> index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2501680b69eb0060b651146dffb6b3a99640c6fb
>>> --- /dev/null
>>> +++ b/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/run
>>> @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@
>>> +#!/bin/execlineb -P
>>> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: EUPL-1.2+
>>> +# SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2025 Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
>>> +if { rm -f /run/sd-notify-wrapper/systemd-udevd }
>>> +background {
>>> +   s6-ipcserver-socketbinder -b0 -m -a 0600 /run/sd-notify-wrapper/systemd-udevd
>>> +   fdmove 1 3
>>> +   sd-notify-adapter
>>> +}
>>> +export NOTIFY_SOCKET /run/sd-notify-wrapper/systemd-udevd
>>> +exec -a systemd-udevd udevadm
>> 
>> How does systemd expect this to normally work?
>
> /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd is a symlink to ../../bin/udevadm

Ah, and you had the problem that currently it's hard to install things
other than kernel modules to /usr/lib.  We can probably fix that.

>>> diff --git a/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/vm-env/contents b/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/vm-env/contents
>>> index 580795b1b02bb7a8dff7f872723c678141d4bb70..ed8b5c410adfc17f5bbc33932ac79d97bd7b3115 100644
>>> --- a/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/vm-env/contents
>>> +++ b/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/vm-env/contents
>>> @@ -2,4 +2,5 @@
>>>  # SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2021 Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
>>>  #
>>>  static-nodes
>>> +systemd-udevd-coldplug
>>>  weston
>> 
>> Shouldn't static-nodes be removed here as well, and the static-nodes
>> files deleted?
>
> Nope.  systemd-udevd doesn't create them.  However,
> one can use kmod and systemd-tmpfiles to do that.
>
> systemd-tmpfiles actually has no dependency on PID 1
> *at all*, so we can use it as much as we want.

Oh, I see, okay.  That's a separate series then. :)

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-26 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-14  3:16 [PATCH 0/3] Switch from mdevd to systemd-udevd in root filesystem Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-14  3:16 ` [PATCH 1/3] host/rootfs: Add early serial output Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-17 11:45   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-18  2:44     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-19 14:21   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-19 14:49   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-14  3:16 ` [PATCH 2/3] tools: Add adapter tool for services using sd_notify Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-14  3:16 ` [PATCH 3/3] host/rootfs: switch to systemd-udevd Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-19 14:12   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-19 19:32     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-21 12:18       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-21 17:02         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-21 16:27       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-21 16:28     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-23 18:39       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-23 19:18         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-24 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Switch from mdevd to systemd-udevd in root filesystem Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-24 10:32   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] tools: Add adapter tool for services using sd_notify Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-25 10:29     ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-25 16:54       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-24 10:32   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] host/rootfs: Switch to systemd-udevd Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-25 10:53     ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-25 17:53       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-26 14:56         ` Alyssa Ross [this message]
2025-09-28 22:51     ` [PATCH v3 0/2] Switch from mdevd to systemd-udevd in root filesystem Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-28 22:51       ` [PATCH v3 1/2] tools: Add adapter tool for services using sd_notify Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-01 16:06         ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-28 22:51       ` [PATCH v3 2/2] host/rootfs: Switch to systemd-udevd Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-01 14:24         ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-01 14:39         ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-01 17:40           ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-02  9:53             ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-02 10:34         ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-02 10:36       ` [PATCH v3 0/2] Switch from mdevd to systemd-udevd in root filesystem Alyssa Ross
2025-10-03 21:42       ` [PATCH v4 " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-03 21:42         ` [PATCH v4 1/2] tools: Add adapter tool for services using sd_notify Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-28 15:38           ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-28 22:56             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-29 11:26           ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-31  4:34             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-31  8:54               ` Alyssa Ross
2025-11-01 18:23                 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-03 21:42         ` [PATCH v4 2/2] host/rootfs: Switch to systemd-udevd Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-28 16:02           ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-28 22:56             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-29  9:31               ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-29  9:55                 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-24 10:32   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] host/rootfs: Simplify s6-rc dependencies Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-25 11:07     ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-25 15:50       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-02 10:37         ` Alyssa Ross

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