From: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
To: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
Cc: Spectrum OS Development <devel@spectrum-os.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] host/rootfs: Switch to systemd-udevd
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2025 16:56:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871pntcle4.fsf@alyssa.is> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5e6bd5d5-a6b3-43f4-8cfd-dc68b432d2ea@gmail.com>
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Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
> On 9/25/25 06:53, Alyssa Ross wrote:
>> Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> diff --git a/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/kvm/up b/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/kvm/up
>>> index c02e3f90245e005b98b4de8245a1863fb49c1158..a8436de58580f2a2a6f42bb69418a319f967df47 100644
>>> --- a/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/kvm/up
>>> +++ b/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/kvm/up
>>> @@ -1,4 +1,3 @@
>>> # SPDX-License-Identifier: EUPL-1.2+
>>> -# SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2023 Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
>>> -
>>> -/etc/mdev/wait kvm
>>> +# SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2025 Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
>>> +udevadm wait /dev/kvm
>>
>> Any reason now not to just inline this into the services that need to wait?
>
> Avoiding redundant calls I guess? I'm not
> sure how expensive 'udevadm wait' is.
Then let's drop the service and see if it becomes a problem. I suspect
it won't.
>>> diff --git a/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/run b/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/run
>>> new file mode 100644
>>> index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2501680b69eb0060b651146dffb6b3a99640c6fb
>>> --- /dev/null
>>> +++ b/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/systemd-udevd/run
>>> @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@
>>> +#!/bin/execlineb -P
>>> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: EUPL-1.2+
>>> +# SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2025 Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
>>> +if { rm -f /run/sd-notify-wrapper/systemd-udevd }
>>> +background {
>>> + s6-ipcserver-socketbinder -b0 -m -a 0600 /run/sd-notify-wrapper/systemd-udevd
>>> + fdmove 1 3
>>> + sd-notify-adapter
>>> +}
>>> +export NOTIFY_SOCKET /run/sd-notify-wrapper/systemd-udevd
>>> +exec -a systemd-udevd udevadm
>>
>> How does systemd expect this to normally work?
>
> /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd is a symlink to ../../bin/udevadm
Ah, and you had the problem that currently it's hard to install things
other than kernel modules to /usr/lib. We can probably fix that.
>>> diff --git a/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/vm-env/contents b/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/vm-env/contents
>>> index 580795b1b02bb7a8dff7f872723c678141d4bb70..ed8b5c410adfc17f5bbc33932ac79d97bd7b3115 100644
>>> --- a/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/vm-env/contents
>>> +++ b/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/vm-env/contents
>>> @@ -2,4 +2,5 @@
>>> # SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2021 Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
>>> #
>>> static-nodes
>>> +systemd-udevd-coldplug
>>> weston
>>
>> Shouldn't static-nodes be removed here as well, and the static-nodes
>> files deleted?
>
> Nope. systemd-udevd doesn't create them. However,
> one can use kmod and systemd-tmpfiles to do that.
>
> systemd-tmpfiles actually has no dependency on PID 1
> *at all*, so we can use it as much as we want.
Oh, I see, okay. That's a separate series then. :)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-26 14:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-14 3:16 [PATCH 0/3] Switch from mdevd to systemd-udevd in root filesystem Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-14 3:16 ` [PATCH 1/3] host/rootfs: Add early serial output Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-17 11:45 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-18 2:44 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-19 14:21 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-19 14:49 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-14 3:16 ` [PATCH 2/3] tools: Add adapter tool for services using sd_notify Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-14 3:16 ` [PATCH 3/3] host/rootfs: switch to systemd-udevd Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-19 14:12 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-19 19:32 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-21 12:18 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-21 17:02 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-21 16:27 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-21 16:28 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-23 18:39 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-23 19:18 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-24 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Switch from mdevd to systemd-udevd in root filesystem Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-24 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] tools: Add adapter tool for services using sd_notify Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-25 10:29 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-25 16:54 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-24 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] host/rootfs: Switch to systemd-udevd Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-25 10:53 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-25 17:53 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-26 14:56 ` Alyssa Ross [this message]
2025-09-28 22:51 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] Switch from mdevd to systemd-udevd in root filesystem Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-28 22:51 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] tools: Add adapter tool for services using sd_notify Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-01 16:06 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-28 22:51 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] host/rootfs: Switch to systemd-udevd Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-01 14:24 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-01 14:39 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-01 17:40 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-02 9:53 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-02 10:34 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-02 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] Switch from mdevd to systemd-udevd in root filesystem Alyssa Ross
2025-10-03 21:42 ` [PATCH v4 " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-03 21:42 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] tools: Add adapter tool for services using sd_notify Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-28 15:38 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-28 22:56 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-29 11:26 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-31 4:34 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-31 8:54 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-11-01 18:23 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-03 21:42 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] host/rootfs: Switch to systemd-udevd Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-28 16:02 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-28 22:56 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-29 9:31 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-10-29 9:55 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-24 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] host/rootfs: Simplify s6-rc dependencies Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-25 11:07 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-25 15:50 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-10-02 10:37 ` Alyssa Ross
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