From: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
To: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
Cc: devel@spectrum-os.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/13] img/app: remove XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2025 12:24:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874iqawik8.fsf@alyssa.is> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3c794137-990c-4b83-a633-baa425b8a911@gmail.com>
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Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
> On 11/26/25 16:33, Alyssa Ross wrote:
>> Nothing uses this any more, and let's hope it stays that way, because
>> it makes it difficult to run services as different users. Maybe we
>> end up finding something that really needs it in the future, but it
>> makes things much easier to avoid it for as long as we can.
>>
>> Older applications might not support WAYLAND_DISPLAY being absolute,
>> but this has been changed in libwayland and GTK. We don't need to
>> support arbitrarily old applications, and this problem will resolve
>> itself over time.
>
> Applications may use XDG_RUNTIME_DIR for their own purposes. I believe
> gpg-agent might use it to place its sockets. This does not mean
> that Spectrum-provided sockets need to be in this directory, though.
> I would set it to the standard /run/user/$UID where $UID is the user
> ID of the application.
>
> If compatibility is a problem, bind mounts are an option.
If $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set applications should fall back to
a replacement directory with similar capabilities and print a
warning message.
We certainly can still set it, but with no definitively known
regressions, and the specification indicating it doesn't have to exist,
I'm not going to block these changes on it.
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-26 21:33 [PATCH 01/13] pkgs: gtk3: backport fix for unset XDG_RUNTIME_DIR Alyssa Ross
2025-11-26 21:33 ` [PATCH 02/13] pkgs: s6: backport s6-softlimit -P Alyssa Ross
2025-12-02 12:30 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-11-26 21:33 ` [PATCH 03/13] img/app: wayland-proxy-virtwl: move Wayland socket Alyssa Ross
2025-12-02 12:30 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-11-26 21:33 ` [PATCH 04/13] img/app: wayland-proxy-virtwl: run as non-root Alyssa Ross
2025-12-02 12:30 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-11-26 21:33 ` [PATCH 05/13] img/app: pipewire: move sockets out of XDG_RUNTIME_DIR Alyssa Ross
2025-12-02 12:30 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-11-26 21:33 ` [PATCH 06/13] img/app: remove XDG_RUNTIME_DIR Alyssa Ross
2025-12-01 5:55 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-12-01 11:24 ` Alyssa Ross [this message]
2025-12-01 19:05 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-12-02 12:30 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-11-26 21:34 ` [PATCH 07/13] img/app: wireplumber: run as non-root Alyssa Ross
2025-12-02 12:30 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-11-26 21:34 ` [PATCH 08/13] img/app: pipewire: disable D-Bus Alyssa Ross
2025-12-02 12:30 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-11-26 21:34 ` [PATCH 09/13] img/app: pipewire: stop fighting s6 over lockfiles Alyssa Ross
2025-12-02 12:30 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-11-26 21:34 ` [PATCH 10/13] img/app: pipewire: run as non-root Alyssa Ross
2025-12-02 12:30 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-11-26 21:34 ` [PATCH 11/13] img/app: dbus: create socket outside daemon Alyssa Ross
2025-12-02 12:30 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-11-26 21:34 ` [PATCH 12/13] img/app: add application user Alyssa Ross
2025-12-02 12:30 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-11-26 21:34 ` [PATCH 13/13] img/app: run applications as non-root Alyssa Ross
2025-12-01 5:58 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-12-01 11:31 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-12-02 12:30 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-12-02 12:30 ` [PATCH 01/13] pkgs: gtk3: backport fix for unset XDG_RUNTIME_DIR Alyssa Ross
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