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From: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
To: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
Cc: Spectrum OS Development <devel@spectrum-os.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/20] scripts/make-erofs.sh: Standardize file modes in images
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2025 14:23:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877bxs570x.fsf@alyssa.is> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <af33c2cc-f2d8-4734-9b61-602866d2a925@gmail.com>

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Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:

> On 9/19/25 13:50, Alyssa Ross wrote:
>> Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Enforce that anything under /var or /etc is 0755 for directories and
>>> executable files and 0644 for anything else.  Enforce that anything else
>>> is 0555 for directories and executable files and 0444 for anything else.
>>> This avoids depending on factors that may depend on the build
>>> environment, such as the user's umask.
>>>
>>> This requires that /var always exist, so add it to img/app/Makefile.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
>>> ---
>>>  host/rootfs/Makefile  |  3 ++-
>>>  img/app/Makefile      |  2 +-
>>>  scripts/make-erofs.sh | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++
>>>  3 files changed, 24 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/host/rootfs/Makefile b/host/rootfs/Makefile
>>> index f677fe580f2e2be58113457e63468d97f49a49f6..dce78e60bc1a8c18f5f448aaa9aeed2c8a7da04e 100644
>>> --- a/host/rootfs/Makefile
>>> +++ b/host/rootfs/Makefile
>>> @@ -97,7 +97,8 @@ DIRS = \
>>>  	ext \
>>>  	run \
>>>  	proc \
>>> -	sys
>>> +	sys \
>>> +	var
>>>  
>>>  FIFOS = etc/s6-linux-init/run-image/service/s6-svscan-log/fifo
>>>  
>>> diff --git a/img/app/Makefile b/img/app/Makefile
>>> index 9665a6b7158f2d8b183831202a4559ae06d53d16..c6b9a23ce8796582d6e2f5121c30c2269975aa2d 100644
>>> --- a/img/app/Makefile
>>> +++ b/img/app/Makefile
>>> @@ -57,7 +57,7 @@ VM_FILES = \
>>>  	etc/wireplumber/wireplumber.conf.d/99_spectrum.conf \
>>>  	etc/xdg/xdg-desktop-portal/portals.conf
>>>  
>>> -VM_DIRS = dev run proc sys tmp \
>>> +VM_DIRS = dev run proc sys tmp var \
>>>  	etc/s6-linux-init/run-image/service \
>>>  	etc/s6-linux-init/run-image/user \
>>>  	etc/s6-linux-init/run-image/wait
>>> diff --git a/scripts/make-erofs.sh b/scripts/make-erofs.sh
>>> index 66abd1f388524c19cd3a1113415892d0d72e3f82..d566a4ac7b30f55338fe9b8b6a94702686f6ddd1 100755
>>> --- a/scripts/make-erofs.sh
>>> +++ b/scripts/make-erofs.sh
>>> @@ -95,4 +95,25 @@ while read -r arg1; do
>>>  	cp -RT -- "$arg1" "$root/$arg2"
>>>  done
>>>  
>>> +# Ensure that the permissions in the image are independent
>>> +# of those in the git repository or Nix store, except for
>>> +# the executable bit.  In particular, the mode of those
>>> +# outside the Nix store might depend on the user's umask.
>>> +# While the image itself is strictly read-only, it makes
>>> +# sense to populate an overlayfs over /etc and /var, and
>>> +# this overlayfs should be writable by root and readable
>>> +# by all users.  The remaining paths should not be writable
>>> +# by anyone, but should be world-readable.
>>> +find "$root" \
>>> +  -path "$root/nix/store" -prune -o \
>>> +  -path "$root/etc" -prune -o \
>>> +  -path "$root/var" -prune -o \
>>> +  -type l -o \
>>> +  -type d -a -perm 0555 -o \
>>> +  -type f -a -perm 0444 -o \
>>> +  -execdir chmod ugo-w,ugo+rX -- '{}' +
>>> +find "$root/etc" "$root/var" ! -type l -execdir chmod u+w,go-w,ugo+rX -- '{}' +
>>> +chmod 0755 "$root"
>>> +
>>> +# Make the erofs image.
>>>  mkfs.erofs -x-1 -b4096 --all-root "$@" "$root"
>> 
>> The idea here is reproducibility, right?  Can the body mention that?
>
> Yes, it is.  I will fix this in v2.
>
>> And can we limit it to just doing r-Xr-Xr-X for now, and then worry
>> about the overlayfs stuff later if we need to?  (This also means we
>> don't have to add /var until we need it.)
>
> systemd-udevd needs /var to be mounted read-write.  Without that,
> its behavior (and that of all other systemd tools) is undefined
> past a certain point in early boot.

It does?  That's surprising to me, since lots of initrds will run
systemd-udevd and I suspect not have /var (such as the NixOS one, I
think).  Looking at systemd's build system, I only see three uses of
localstatedir: polkitpkladir, systemdstatedir, and randomseeddir.  As
far as I can tell, none of these are used by systemd-udevd.

>> I'd also like to stick to POSIX features for standard utilities where
>> possible, which it should be here.  (I know cp -T isn't POSIX. 🤫)
>
> Per 'man 1 find', the find command I provided is POSIX except for
> -execdir.  However, -execdir is also documented as being provided
> by BSD OSs.  The documentation also warns against -exec, though
> the race that -execdir blocks is irrelevant here.

Yeah, exactly.  Might as well use the POSIX one when it suffices.

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-21 12:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-04 21:26 [PATCH 00/20] Many image fixes and systemd integration Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 01/20] scripts/make-erofs.sh: Ensure that / is world-readable Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  8:21   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 02/20] scripts/make-erofs.sh: Do not read one byte at a time Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  8:23   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 16:57     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-09 15:19       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 03/20] scripts/make-erofs.sh: Avoid unneeded calls to awk and chmod Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  8:28   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 17:14     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-10 18:45       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 04/20] scripts/make-erofs.sh: Validate all paths Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  8:36   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:21     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-10 18:54       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-21 12:09         ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 05/20] scripts/make-erofs.sh: Avoid unneeded calls to dirname Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-10 20:04   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-10 20:06     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-19 16:47   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-19 19:04     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 06/20] scripts/make-erofs.sh: Avoid unneeded calls to mkdir Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  8:39   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 07/20] scripts/make-erofs.sh: Standardize file modes in images Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  8:46   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 17:16     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-19 17:50   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-19 19:18     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-21 12:23       ` Alyssa Ross [this message]
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 08/20] Standardize directories and symlinks " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  8:59   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:05     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-19 17:53       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 09/20] Add os-release file Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:12   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:07     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 10/20] host/rootfs: Set -eu in build Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:13   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:08     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 11/20] Add /dev/fd and /dev/std* Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:18   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:12     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 12/20] host/rootfs: Do not read from /dev/tty1 Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:19   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:18     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-19 18:22       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-19 19:00         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-21  9:01           ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 13/20] host/rootfs: pass API socket as fd 3, not fd 0 Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:44   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 14/20] host/rootfs: Disable unneeded BusyBox tools Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:24   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 15/20] host/rootfs: Use real less, not BusyBox less Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:25   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:16     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-19 18:45       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-19 19:01         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-21  9:02           ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 16/20] host/rootfs: explicitly set PATH in network add script Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 17/20] Use /etc/s6-rc/compiled for compiled s6-rc directory Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:27   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:15     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 18/20] host/rootfs: virtiofsd: Do not use FD 0 as the socket Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:44   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 19/20] host/rootfs: Disable unneeded busybox stuff Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 20/20] host/rootfs: Switch to systemd Demi Marie Obenour

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