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Thu, 2 Oct 2025 06:38:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mbp.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AAC785FA4FDD; Thu, 02 Oct 2025 12:37:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Alyssa Ross To: Demi Marie Obenour Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] host/rootfs: Simplify s6-rc dependencies In-Reply-To: <30c50226-7c05-4b5b-8892-871a485f8a9e@gmail.com> References: <20250924-udev-v2-0-6089de521b3b@gmail.com> <20250924-udev-v2-3-6089de521b3b@gmail.com> <87wm5mbxiv.fsf@alyssa.is> <30c50226-7c05-4b5b-8892-871a485f8a9e@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2025 12:37:59 +0200 Message-ID: <87cy75wpvc.fsf@alyssa.is> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Message-ID-Hash: DH3IRP226XAVTKCEBZ2UU7XFOEH7LOEM X-Message-ID-Hash: DH3IRP226XAVTKCEBZ2UU7XFOEH7LOEM X-MailFrom: hi@alyssa.is X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-0; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-1; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-2; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-3; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-4; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Spectrum OS Development X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and low-level development discussion Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Demi Marie Obenour writes: > On 9/25/25 07:07, Alyssa Ross wrote: >> Demi Marie Obenour writes: >>=20 >>> diff --git a/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/vmm-env/contents b/host/rootfs= /image/etc/s6-rc/vmm-env/contents >>> deleted file mode 100644 >>> index 9a1aea63abd1b5c374e3ac9a9671e4c9341f8d16..00000000000000000000000= 00000000000000000 >>> --- a/host/rootfs/image/etc/s6-rc/vmm-env/contents >>> +++ /dev/null >>> @@ -1,9 +0,0 @@ >>> -# SPDX-License-Identifier: CC0-1.0 >>> -# SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2021 Alyssa Ross >>> -# >>> -core >>> -kvm >>> -# systemd runs systemd-udev-trigger.service before sysinit.target. >>> -# Therefore, anything using libudev that isn't an early boot service >>> -# might expect udev coldplug to have finished. >>> -systemd-udevd-coldplug >>=20 >> I think it probably makes sense to keep a distinction between "user can >> now start VMs" (vm-env) and "it is now possible to start a VMM, possibly >> automatically" (vmm-env). We can of course try to find better names, >> though. > > can-start-vms-automatically and can-start-vms-manually? "interactive" and "vmm-env"? --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQRV/neXydHjZma5XLJbRZGEIw/wogUCaN5WBwAKCRBbRZGEIw/w okbgAQDcgi4wJJ9+kFWFHBLPG2DtqvuR9FTWSSWt0zPYLrF/igD/Vfi0+61tBG2x Jl89oH53DbTM9bBwiEo83D3gKFtrFg4= =PZeT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--