From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from atuin.qyliss.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBAF6361 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2025 12:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 993) id 8D31F6390; Fri, 18 Jul 2025 12:23:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on atuin.qyliss.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DMARC_MISSING,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 Received: from fhigh-a6-smtp.messagingengine.com (fhigh-a6-smtp.messagingengine.com [103.168.172.157]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D787C638F for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2025 12:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phl-compute-01.internal (phl-compute-01.phl.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailfhigh.phl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B2314000E9; Fri, 18 Jul 2025 08:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-mailfrontend-02 ([10.202.2.163]) by phl-compute-01.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 18 Jul 2025 08:23:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alyssa.is; h=cc :cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm1; t=1752841421; x=1752927821; bh=sT2GE0q49K Tk9EcQTxAoK7g6bK15nV745pwB3Gkz6nA=; b=ai5jw2rBriOYkuWpigCtjYIDAK QVbuiWdvRbAPXpZwqA+XrIrL3pZ/chvZua3A5rLnhHPEiAgf+RPmpsGz7hfLMO8P urcRkV0Yb/4SekVf42pLOggsVDXCvfOqKiIax+SbSbEWh8wXpi5x8uD6LyDVcS3n YBCtK0uRSbjEuoNTNHkxHUE69SpcHzWHEcxNlek8ZD7Td8JM7dV5cRYgFC5HfVwV F5vWkPko63Xy0k80TgihkWv/Cf6affpGCAWTOlCfgLFE27+MhNcivbF1YSW7YZg6 RObQ1LRp1L+FG6Loy9URZt/f/xzVjxg+d3WmrG3+IR0uGWfFHGHvAmu6BaCQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t= 1752841421; x=1752927821; bh=sT2GE0q49KTk9EcQTxAoK7g6bK15nV745pw B3Gkz6nA=; b=f0fRXI6SQ7Aq8pYMLMdRM0SoMz1XH+wBhcYIlPliev2nKfH7W37 U+KgU1dOKofPbvlvkB4XTX7WriiPOr0E0PaBMISnC2ERM+0TNsW6PZTb6rj4jfDD hGklYNuLtHCUsDW/I8VhgypfH4SzPtybHngk9nAHVTZwzP4DdZoiFqO52NHzre51 cYeXP2mhIFZaMIgofP/ojFBShr7kev6PtfaleiFgMbvyrmgGm4yzmnaLMe/Tmc3B gHHw11/QE3Q7SdoFxKARMzZWWnobOxG06mqZiR2NklqTQxFx88lTCTYCxZN+NHI7 oxR+apozuOCKoR1aJnk9X/3SL5KzMGHX5DQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeffedrtdefgdeifeeggecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecuuegr ihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjug hrpefhvfevufgjfhffkfggtgesghdtreertddttdenucfhrhhomheptehlhihsshgrucft ohhsshcuoehhihesrghlhihsshgrrdhisheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepieduffeuie elgfetgfdttddtkeekheekgfehkedufeevteegfeeiffetvdetueevnecuvehluhhsthgv rhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhephhhisegrlhihshhsrgdrih hspdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedvpdhmohguvgepshhmthhpohhuthdprhgtphhtthhopegu vghmihhosggvnhhouhhrsehgmhgrihhlrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepuggvvhgvlhessh hpvggtthhruhhmqdhoshdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i12284293:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 18 Jul 2025 08:23:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sf.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A11D02B8E9DC4; Fri, 18 Jul 2025 14:16:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Alyssa Ross To: Demi Marie Obenour Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs In-Reply-To: <0c96ea29-ecf8-416e-b1d6-4b3e1c2371e6@gmail.com> References: <638beeaa-2351-4f51-81a6-bc58883930c2@gmail.com> <87seiyg6w2.fsf@alyssa.is> <0c96ea29-ecf8-416e-b1d6-4b3e1c2371e6@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 14:16:13 +0200 Message-ID: <87ecudsnhu.fsf@alyssa.is> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Message-ID-Hash: 4GPMUTOUYQJYUKGZDJNHSCYSG7LJHR7Z X-Message-ID-Hash: 4GPMUTOUYQJYUKGZDJNHSCYSG7LJHR7Z X-MailFrom: hi@alyssa.is X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-0; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-1; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-2; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-3; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-4; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Spectrum OS Development X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and low-level development discussion Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Demi Marie Obenour writes: > On 7/16/25 17:16, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: >> I'm working on it, but I ran into a problem: I can't install vim in the guest! >> Adding it to the list of packages doesn't work; I still don't have a Vim binary >> in the guest. Without that, I have to rebuild the VM every time I want to make >> a change, which makes it very hard to iterate while I figure out how to make >> PipeWire talk to an emulated virtio-sound device QEMU provides. > > Deleting the build directory causes the image to be rebuilt. I've pushed a change that causes a rebuild if the list of packages has changed. You'll still need to exit and re-enter the Nix shell (or use something like direnv that automatically refreshes that for you), but there's no longer a need to delete the build directory after that. We could also implement rebuilds when other environment variables from Nix change. (The reason I think this change makes sense, but not your Makefile dependency patch, is that this only needs a dependency to be added to specific targets that use that value, and because it's solving an integration problem between Nix and Make, rather than trying to change normal Make functionality.) --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQRV/neXydHjZma5XLJbRZGEIw/wogUCaHo7DQAKCRBbRZGEIw/w or97AQD6oIRncWzcDA/tRUymgY8nnzwTaE71pm4sU8/URKN39QEA1zQsWDRuQNuL F9MUY7loe1O5imLbHyvutVtjvP3s1AQ= =BwX8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--