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From: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
To: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
Cc: devel@spectrum-os.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/8] host/rootfs: move xdp runtime dir out of VM dir
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2025 14:06:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fr9h5fsw.fsf@alyssa.is> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87jyyt5go9.fsf@alyssa.is>

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Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is> writes:

> Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 12/10/25 07:47, Alyssa Ross wrote:
>>> This will enable running D-Bus as a user that does not have access to
>>> VM directories.
>>> 
>>> Signed-off-by: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
>>> ---
>>>  host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/create-vm-dependencies            | 6 ++++--
>>>  .../services/org.freedesktop.portal.Documents.service       | 2 +-
>>>  2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>> 
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>>> @@ -27,7 +27,9 @@ if {
>>>    # can be writable block-based bind mounted subdirectories.
>>>    if { mount --rbind -o nofail /run/vm/by-id/${1}/config/fs /run/vm/by-id/${1}/fs/config }
>>>    if { mount --rbind -o ro /run/vm/by-id/${1}/fs /run/vm/by-id/${1}/fs }
>>> -  mount --rbind /run/vm/by-id/${1}/doc-run/doc /run/vm/by-id/${1}/fs/doc
>>> +
>>> +  if { mount --make-shared --rbind /run/doc/${1} /run/doc/${1} }
>>> +  mount --rbind /run/doc/${1}/doc /run/vm/by-id/${1}/fs/doc
>>>  }
>>
>> This could definitely use a lot more comments.  For instance, why is
>> --make-shared needed?  What about --rbind?
>>
>> I trust that you tested this code and it works, but it isn't obvious
>> *why* it works or why it must be written this way.
>>
>> It would be best to have a document explaining what all of the mount
>> points and namespaces are, why they are as they are, and what mount
>> propagation is involved.
>
> I think a separate document would quickly go out of date, but I'm happy
> to add some comments inline.

--rbind is perhaps worth discussing.  I consider it best practice to
always use --rbind over --bind, because generally the idea with a bind
mount is to copy a whole hierarchy from one place to another.  With
--bind you have to know the internal structure of that hierarchy and be
sure you only want the top-level mount; with --rbind you just think in
terms of the hierarchy.  There are also some situations where it's
mandatory to use --rbind: where a --bind would reveal hierarchies in the
mountpoint that have been hidden by extra bind mounts being placed over
the top.

(I won't put this in a comment here because we use --rbind all over the
place, but it's something that would make sense to put into developer
guidelines once we have a documentation structure that accomodates such
a thing.)

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-11 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-10 12:47 [PATCH 1/8] host/rootfs: create dbus socket externally Alyssa Ross
2025-12-10 12:47 ` [PATCH 2/8] host/rootfs: move vsock sockets out of VM dir Alyssa Ross
2025-12-10 12:47 ` [PATCH 3/8] host/rootfs: move portal bus socket " Alyssa Ross
2025-12-10 12:47 ` [PATCH 4/8] host/rootfs: run xdg-desktop-portal-spectrum-host as non-root Alyssa Ross
2025-12-10 17:26   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-12-11 12:19     ` Alyssa Ross
2025-12-11 14:05       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-12-12 17:54       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-12-10 12:47 ` [PATCH 5/8] host/rootfs: create a per-VM user namespace Alyssa Ross
2025-12-10 17:39   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-12-11 12:41     ` Alyssa Ross
2025-12-12 17:51       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-12-12 17:56         ` Alyssa Ross
2025-12-10 12:47 ` [PATCH 6/8] host/rootfs: move xdp runtime dir out of VM dir Alyssa Ross
2025-12-10 17:43   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-12-11 12:47     ` Alyssa Ross
2025-12-11 13:06       ` Alyssa Ross [this message]
2025-12-10 12:47 ` [PATCH 7/8] host/rootfs: move fs directory out of VM directory Alyssa Ross
2025-12-10 12:47 ` [PATCH 8/8] host/rootfs: run filesystem daemons as non-root Alyssa Ross
2025-12-10 18:29   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-12-11 12:46     ` Alyssa Ross

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