From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from atuin.qyliss.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2674612E79; Sun, 20 Jul 2025 14:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 993) id C0CE612EC1; Sun, 20 Jul 2025 14:38:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on atuin.qyliss.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DMARC_MISSING,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 Received: from fhigh-b3-smtp.messagingengine.com (fhigh-b3-smtp.messagingengine.com [202.12.124.154]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C52C12EC0 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2025 14:38:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phl-compute-04.internal (phl-compute-04.phl.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailfhigh.stl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4457A00BE; Sun, 20 Jul 2025 10:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-mailfrontend-01 ([10.202.2.162]) by phl-compute-04.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 20 Jul 2025 10:38:15 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alyssa.is; h=cc :content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm1; t=1753022295; x=1753108695; bh=MBKurauF+I MvN9Lic4dfjvY3EqGCW9buXJ/rPsgM5Q8=; b=ld1iK4j+kBpg0LC2iyuK3dT/q9 tTM6yw+MKKQkZVaXj7pv1Vc/dZDF8zdrFVJ8UHakkHE6DPq8JDPKT62XugJXicsW Lrjgd5eHD6ukdMVCW/Udtux5fprLRIVBdiR0+DHsMnqwZJjza/jcQ2YYEjioLh+8 /dudBTpwpz1XNwIqIgtshQPlykcItT3IT/mvVa6j0uEio+vexqFRO6+GjFLy83Hl EbS3iLnG/6FLLuw27FH8Z6N73OWqsZcWB8ZlP6oOMBT1h21zQ3+Pv4sh9yLdyuJo wuJJ+4YlsBFjt05dB3MIdfqE+0ud9zvDZ7SXgPmPiQgm/ArhL6CTezmI+sjA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t= 1753022295; x=1753108695; bh=MBKurauF+IMvN9Lic4dfjvY3EqGCW9buXJ/ rPsgM5Q8=; b=b62ZCL/wwtPrISSJJ7dTVrda2U9dqXfzeN8U8WfhGXUtisc0GVG h+x4WWR3U/wwtL9VX2Z1ezU+MhVRBDzIOPDAz6He9spCLVusNIomMeWOSyWTWYdq G3R15glQ/vDrdzsEMmHwRRjsIQKQC1G+wip8AT2yTfGfp+EtChjNTwhZMLpAyEbo jgk8AHzKLrdwTpiZlq4DJ3y5bj+Y5h7yhVlflE9KEm2fvkXxdk5xBbi4A06Xhds/ a/G1aSxTgtXVzHlcgoVfrWhFwefwPRBqY0aNLTjGiu/cJqfdDbRLGP8PDf19PT3W pelO3BhdP2N2KIzz4uPcIEujm8wpNEv5N7g== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeffedrtdefgdeileeghecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecuuegr ihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjug hrpefhvffujghffffkgggtsehgtderredttddtnecuhfhrohhmpeetlhihshhsrgcutfho shhsuceohhhisegrlhihshhsrgdrihhsqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpedvuedviedvhe fhieektddvvdehgfehffelveeuiefggfdtffffueejudejjeekjeenucevlhhushhtvghr ufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehhihesrghlhihsshgrrdhish dpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepvddpmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouhhtpdhrtghpthhtohepuggv mhhiohgsvghnohhurhesghhmrghilhdrtghomhdprhgtphhtthhopeguvghvvghlsehsph gvtghtrhhumhdqohhsrdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i12284293:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 20 Jul 2025 10:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mbp.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 15DC511A5521; Sun, 20 Jul 2025 16:38:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Alyssa Ross To: Demi Marie Obenour , Spectrum OS Development Subject: Re: "make run-qemu" gets Wayland protocol error In-Reply-To: References: <013e1c97-7fd7-4a3d-9d13-d1d93965f9be@gmail.com> <87frerjnxt.fsf@alyssa.is> <87cy9vjmtg.fsf@alyssa.is> <87a54zjms4.fsf@alyssa.is> <877c03jm76.fsf@alyssa.is> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2025 16:38:11 +0200 Message-ID: <87frer9bcc.fsf@alyssa.is> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Message-ID-Hash: CH5VO4VEGRR6HOBAXWUKNBJSTOZIKH3M X-Message-ID-Hash: CH5VO4VEGRR6HOBAXWUKNBJSTOZIKH3M X-MailFrom: hi@alyssa.is X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-0; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-1; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-2; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-3; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-4; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and low-level development discussion Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Demi Marie Obenour writes: > I looked at CrAS and it requires udev, so I don't think there is > any reasonable way to avoid udev on the host. However, eudev should > be sufficient, so systemd isn't needed. I'm not sure if eudev needs > D-Bus, though an old blog post suggested it does not. systemd also supports building udev standalone, IIRC. That's what e.g. Alpine does I think. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQRV/neXydHjZma5XLJbRZGEIw/wogUCaHz/UwAKCRBbRZGEIw/w oqI4AP49S24gT6pj9o/A0qcu9R/nauSerihguHdVL3nnpWzz+QD/SSkdFv/+EdJJ c1mq6k7kzOqElcFYFQcTKkiqsJsYcgY= =gAdC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--