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From: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
To: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
Cc: Spectrum OS Development <devel@spectrum-os.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 02/20] tools: Add control group manager
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2026 16:53:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h5lgv89g.fsf@alyssa.is> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <295f55ea-f5bd-49e0-8eb6-3a6aab9e981f@gmail.com>

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Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:

> On 7/27/26 08:10, Alyssa Ross wrote:
>> Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> On 7/22/26 12:01, Alyssa Ross wrote:
>>>> Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>>>> +fn remove_recursively(fd: OwnedFd, remaining_depth: usize) -> Result<(), Errno> {
>>>>> +    if remaining_depth < 1 {
>>>>> +        panic!("control groups too deeply nested");
>>>>> +    }
>>>>> +    let mut d = rustix::fs::Dir::new(fd).expect("cannot start iterating");
>>>>> +    while let Some(element) = d.next() {
>>>>> +        let element = element.expect("Iterating through a cgroup directory failed?");
>>>>> +        if element.file_type() != rustix::fs::FileType::Directory {
>>>>> +            continue;
>>>>> +        }
>>>>> +
>>>>> +        let remaining_depth = remaining_depth - 1;
>>>>> +        let d: &rustix::fs::Dir = &d;
>>>>> +        let dirfd = d.fd().unwrap();
>>>>> +        let path = element.file_name();
>>>>> +        remove_all(remaining_depth, dirfd, path)?;
>> 
>> I'd inline these variables into the function call the extent possible.
>> Otherwise I have to follow a lot of shuffling around.
>
> Will fix in v5.
>
>>>>> +    }
>>>>> +    drop(d);
>>>>> +    Ok(())
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +
>>>>> +fn remove_all(
>>>>> +    remaining_depth: usize,
>>>>> +    dirfd: BorrowedFd<'_>,
>>>>> +    path: &std::ffi::CStr,
>>>>> +) -> Result<(), Errno> {
>>>>> +    if path == c"." || path == c".." {
>>>>> +        return Ok(());
>>>>> +    }
>> 
>> It's a bit weird that calling remove_all on . or .. does not fail.
>> Maybe would be clearer to move this check to the call site?
>
> Will fix in v5, making the code simpler.
>
>>>>> +    if rustix::fs::unlinkat(dirfd, path, AtFlags::REMOVEDIR).is_ok() {
>>>>> +        return Ok(());
>>>>> +    }
>> 
>> We could drop this, right?  A few extra syscalls, but less to wrap my
>> head around.
>
> Correct.
>
>>>>> +    let fd = rustix::fs::openat2(
>>>>> +        dirfd,
>>>>> +        path,
>>>>> +        OFlags::CLOEXEC | OFlags::NOFOLLOW | OFlags::RDONLY | OFlags::DIRECTORY,
>>>>> +        Mode::empty(),
>>>>> +        ResolveFlags::NO_SYMLINKS | ResolveFlags::BENEATH | ResolveFlags::NO_XDEV,
>>>>> +    )?;
>>>>> +    remove_recursively(fd, remaining_depth)?;
>>>>> +    rustix::fs::unlinkat(dirfd, path, AtFlags::REMOVEDIR)?;
>>>>> +    Ok(())
>>>>> +}
>>>>
>>>> Could we save a lot of code by calling std::fs::remove_dir_all with a
>>>> /proc/self/fd path?  It's already documented to ignore symlinks.
>>>
>>> I tried, but that tries to delete files too, and that isn't allowed.
>> 
>> Ah, alright.  That could use an explanatory comment.
>> 
>> How can we be confident we have enough stack for this?  Is there a way
>> it could be done non-recursively, with state on the heap?
>
> In Spectrum, the depth is currently limited to a small constant.

Right, but that's really papering over the problem, and our stack is
also limited to a small constant size.  We could avoid the problem
entirely by instead running paths to operate on through a VecDeque
rather than recursing, and then we wouldn't need any arbitrary limit.

>>>> Last time I suggested a clearer way of doing this, but it has instead
>>>> got even less clear.
>>>>
>>>> (I'm not sure why we'd care if there's a newline specifically, as
>>>> opposed to any other control character.)
>>>
>>> If cgroups v1 is in use, the file can contain multiple lines, one for
>>> each cgroup the program is in.  I also am not sure if starting with
>>> "0::/" is an invariant in that case.
>>>
>>> Using this program with cgroups v1 mounted is user error and will
>>> never happen on Spectrum, but if this tool is used outside of Spectrum,
>>> it could happen.
>> 
>> I see.  It seems like with cgroups v1, it _could_ start with 0::/, but
>> probably wouldn't.  I think it may not be possible to tell from this
>> file whether cgroups v1 is in use.
>> 
>> So I suppose it depends what you want to happen if cgroups v1 is in use.
>> If it looks enough like cgroups v2, do you continue, or do you
>> explicitly check for cgroups v1?  If the latter (sounds more sensible to
>> me), you need to explicitly check for cgroups v1 somehow I think.  Can
>> cgroups v1 and v2 be in use at the same time?  If so, checking might be
>> complicated, but if not, you can just check what type of filesystem is
>> mounted at /sys/fs/cgroup, or see if it has a
>> /sys/fs/cgroup/cgroup.controllers file.
>
> In the case of Spectrum, I think it's okay to just panic if cgroups v2
> isn't mounted or isn't working properly.  It's a bug in either
> cgroup-setup or the kernel, almost certainly the former.

Yeah I agree it's completely fine for new stuff to requrie cgroups v2.

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-30 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-20 14:23 [PATCH] Set up control groups for most services Demi Marie Obenour
2026-06-20 17:27 ` [PATCH v2] " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-06-24 12:13   ` Alyssa Ross
2026-06-24 12:36     ` Alyssa Ross
2026-06-25  2:03     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-06-25  3:03       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-06-25  9:55         ` Alyssa Ross
2026-06-25  9:49       ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-11 20:12   ` [PATCH v3 00/22] Control group support Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 01/22] host/rootfs: Mount filesystems before s6-rc-init Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-13  9:39       ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-13 17:27         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-15 18:28           ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-22  1:59       ` [PATCH v4 00/20] Control group support Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 01/20] host/rootfs: Mount filesystems before s6-rc-init Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 02/20] tools: Add control group manager Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-22 16:01           ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-23 23:07             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-27 12:10               ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-30  0:40                 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-30 14:53                   ` Alyssa Ross [this message]
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 03/20] Documentation: Mention control groups Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-27 11:22           ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-28 10:41           ` Valentin Gagarin
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 04/20] Mount cgroup2 filesystem at /sys/fs/cgroup Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-27 11:23           ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 05/20] host/rootfs: Add helper program for per-VM services Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-27 11:27           ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 06/20] host/rootfs: Enable controllers in sub-cgroups Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-27 12:11           ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-28  2:19             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-29 14:13               ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 07/20] host/rootfs: Add comments where cgroups are intentionally not used Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-27 12:12           ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 08/20] host/rootfs: serial-getty-generator: Use cgroups Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-27 12:14           ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 09/20] host/rootfs: Set up parent cgroup for all per-VM services Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-27 12:16           ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-28  3:01             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-29 14:29               ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-29 20:20                 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 10/20] host/rootfs: Create per-VM cgroup for all of the VM's services Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 11/20] host/rootfs: run-vmm: Create per-VM cgroup Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 12/20] host/rootfs: run-appimage: Purge the " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-27 12:18           ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 13/20] host/rootfs: run-flatpak: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-27 12:19           ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 14/20] host/rootfs: dbus: Run in cgroup Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 15/20] host/rootfs: vhost-user-fs: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 16/20] host/rootfs: vhost-user-gpu: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 17/20] host/rootfs: xdg-desktop-portal-spectrum-host: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 18/20] host/rootfs: systemd-udevd: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-27 12:20           ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-28  3:11             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-29 14:15               ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-29 20:39                 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-30 14:55                   ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 19/20] host/rootfs: weston: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-27 12:23           ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-28  3:14             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-22  1:59         ` [PATCH v4 20/20] host/rootfs: spectrum-router: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54         ` [PATCH v5 00/19] Control group support Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 01/19] host/rootfs: Mount filesystems before s6-rc-init Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 02/19] tools: Add control group manager Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-03 12:47             ` Alyssa Ross
2026-08-05  1:36               ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-05 16:39                 ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 03/19] Documentation: Mention control groups Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-03 13:22             ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 04/19] Mount cgroup2 filesystem at /sys/fs/cgroup Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 05/19] host/rootfs: Enable controllers in non-root cgroups Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 06/19] host/rootfs: Add comments where cgroups are intentionally not used Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 07/19] host/rootfs: serial-getty-generator: Use cgroups Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 08/19] host/rootfs: systemd-udevd: Run in cgroup Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 09/19] host/rootfs: weston: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 10/19] host/rootfs: Set up parent cgroup for all per-VM services Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 11/19] host/rootfs: Create per-VM cgroup for all of the VM's services Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 12/19] host/rootfs: run-vmm: Create per-VM cgroup Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 13/19] host/rootfs: run-appimage: Purge the " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 14/19] host/rootfs: run-flatpak: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 15/19] host/rootfs: dbus: Run in cgroup Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 16/19] host/rootfs: vhost-user-fs: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 17/19] host/rootfs: vhost-user-gpu: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 18/19] host/rootfs: xdg-desktop-portal-spectrum-host: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-31 21:54           ` [PATCH v5 19/19] host/rootfs: spectrum-router: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16           ` [PATCH v6 00/19] Control group support Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 01/19] host/rootfs: Mount filesystems before s6-rc-init Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 02/19] tools: Add control group manager Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  6:58               ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-12 21:10               ` Alyssa Ross
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 03/19] Documentation: Mention control groups Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 04/19] Mount cgroup2 filesystem at /sys/fs/cgroup Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 05/19] host/rootfs: Enable controllers in non-root cgroups Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 06/19] host/rootfs: Add comments where cgroups are intentionally not used Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 07/19] host/rootfs: serial-getty-generator: Use cgroups Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 08/19] host/rootfs: systemd-udevd: Run in cgroup Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 09/19] host/rootfs: weston: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 10/19] host/rootfs: Set up parent cgroup for all per-VM services Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 11/19] host/rootfs: Create per-VM cgroup for all of the VM's services Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 12/19] host/rootfs: run-vmm: Create per-VM cgroup Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 13/19] host/rootfs: run-appimage: Purge the " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 14/19] host/rootfs: run-flatpak: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 15/19] host/rootfs: dbus: Run in cgroup Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 16/19] host/rootfs: vhost-user-fs: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 17/19] host/rootfs: vhost-user-gpu: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 18/19] host/rootfs: xdg-desktop-portal-spectrum-host: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-06  1:16             ` [PATCH v6 19/19] host/rootfs: spectrum-router: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-08-12 21:06             ` [PATCH v6 00/19] Control group support Alyssa Ross
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 02/22] scripts: Support symlinks in s6-rc-compile inputs Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-13  9:42       ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-13 14:19         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-15 18:30           ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 03/22] tools: Add control group manager Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 04/22] Documentation: Mention control groups Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 05/22] Mount cgroup2 filesystem at /sys/fs/cgroup Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 06/22] host/rootfs: Add helper program for per-VM services Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 07/22] host/rootfs: Enable controllers in sub-cgroups Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 08/22] host/rootfs: Add comments where cgroups are intentionally not used Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 09/22] host/rootfs: serial-getty-generator: Use cgroups Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 10/22] host/rootfs: Set up parent cgroup for all per-VM services Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 11/22] host/rootfs: Create per-VM cgroup for all of the VM's services Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 12/22] host/rootfs: run-vmm: Create per-VM cgroup Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 13/22] host/rootfs: run-appimage: Purge the " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 14/22] host/rootfs: run-flatpak: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 15/22] host/rootfs: dbus: Run in cgroup Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 16/22] host/rootfs: vhost-user-fs: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 17/22] host/rootfs: vhost-user-gpu: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 18/22] host/rootfs: xdg-desktop-portal-spectrum-host: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 19/22] host/rootfs: systemd-udevd: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 20/22] host/rootfs: weston: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 21/22] host/rootfs: spectrum-router: " Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-11 20:12     ` [PATCH v3 22/22] host/rootfs: vm-import: Use elglob -w Demi Marie Obenour

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