From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from atuin.qyliss.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D89CA0F1; Thu, 21 May 2026 12:53:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 993) id DFDFBA170; Thu, 21 May 2026 12:53:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on atuin.qyliss.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DMARC_MISSING,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 Received: from fout-a7-smtp.messagingengine.com (fout-a7-smtp.messagingengine.com [103.168.172.150]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5D70A16D for ; Thu, 21 May 2026 12:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phl-compute-04.internal (phl-compute-04.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailfout.phl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97518EC00D4; Thu, 21 May 2026 08:53:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-frontend-03 ([10.202.2.162]) by phl-compute-04.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 21 May 2026 08:53:43 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alyssa.is; h=cc :cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm2; t=1779368023; x=1779454423; bh=x2aJPuK3If yb5XCrOAX5h0KDXtXM3lG5N0nl+VJcE04=; b=wYTDa9YES50LaJA52aV3AWvjtc BuSzEapO3M9dRbP+0XL36jDS59KmdNnOrDNq1H8cY/E7F8EkCo7CBuiazlYJ5FmA w/pijCn2Eqgum0bD4SvU3TlFrttSxMbAAHEjwmGAA0DBd+Da9HhikI+r24ljLB0G FTUOuHKgIPBho34hBV6rLMqS1iVBAx0e9WJijg5K6RYoKW0FkomlzmCraQ+v2OJt 4cbwSQruHL4H2/TvWiSe11b3+8fwcktK5vNI+zFl8TiV6/H1fT0cUfx15ozHHneh 31ed0701yMqas466/Dh+rJdOaUsRrQQjX0IFWwDdQ37DSkvd2sKkE0ANz/JQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t= 1779368023; x=1779454423; bh=x2aJPuK3Ifyb5XCrOAX5h0KDXtXM3lG5N0n l+VJcE04=; b=Nef7zdpyNLi4xn8DrmsLSsWgBzxZDrLyHM1rYvznTk697ezPJyp Ai/7omDTBCpFVvw6erZkh/xOLR5CJZIJhJM4oRxBn3O15G7SqI+gCN5LQLasXrmp CG1sHbJ6dGYBnt0RzuUHxKX1ecPRnGNyrXXmycu3QhwIzMt2SdITnthZv4FpQRS7 MnloZECHEiCNXWHbHQeB8p+uZj3brZS1V+o4oJ8yyfdQLwLamjprhS1/NoSktYhz BLoFz3qiutT4qflgqSJt2njefIt97CHpRSaOYOSZ05N/yFABxUNIL6LZSCZS4yPP IrXXut3w9flExhxfI0QxAoV81qBWUjBi78w== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefhedrtddtgddugeejheeiucetufdoteggodetrf dotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgenuceu rghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujf gurhephffvvefujghffffkgggtsehgtderredttddtnecuhfhrohhmpeetlhihshhsrgcu tfhoshhsuceohhhisegrlhihshhsrgdrihhsqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeeiudffue eilefgtefgtddttdekkeehkefgheekudefveetgeefiefftedvteeuveenucevlhhushht vghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehhihesrghlhihsshgrrd hishdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepvddpmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouhhtpdhrtghpthhtohep uggvmhhiohgsvghnohhurhesghhmrghilhdrtghomhdprhgtphhtthhopeguvghvvghlse hsphgvtghtrhhumhdqohhsrdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i12284293:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 21 May 2026 08:53:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fw12.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 891EFB0AD20C; Thu, 21 May 2026 14:53:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Alyssa Ross To: Demi Marie Obenour Subject: Re: USB network cards In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 21 May 2026 14:53:41 +0200 Message-ID: <87h5o0diui.fsf@alyssa.is> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Message-ID-Hash: MBF4KFGOO6JSG3MIFHPTMFZNO2ECD7IF X-Message-ID-Hash: MBF4KFGOO6JSG3MIFHPTMFZNO2ECD7IF X-MailFrom: hi@alyssa.is X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-0; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-1; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-2; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-3; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-4; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Spectrum OS Development X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and low-level development discussion Archived-At: <> List-Archive: <> List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Demi Marie Obenour writes: > A lot of modern laptops don't have RJ45 jacks. Ethernet is only > supported via USB Ethernet adapters. > > Is this just a special case of broader USB support, or is it worth > handling separately? If the Linux USB core and the xHCI driver were > secure against malicious input, it might make sense to implement > the drivers in userspace on the router. Sadly, that isn't the case > right now. I don't immediately see a reason it would need to be handled separately. The router VM shouldn't care whether a network device is USB or not. What special handling do you imagine? --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQQGoGac7QfI+H5ZtFCZddwkt31pFQUCag8AVQAKCRCZddwkt31p FQ1cAP4tP4QI4cgI+jy160a16Y2ZrCY1R+OTBkI7gzK7tVtaogEArKmY1EgBngvr xrrWNP1U1MgpN4DAOnaeyNAOwECL7gI= =GwQD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--