From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from atuin.qyliss.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B45A489; Thu, 21 May 2026 15:50:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 993) id D496FA481; Thu, 21 May 2026 15:50:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on atuin.qyliss.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DMARC_MISSING,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 Received: from fhigh-a8-smtp.messagingengine.com (fhigh-a8-smtp.messagingengine.com [103.168.172.159]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 923D0A3FF for ; Thu, 21 May 2026 15:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phl-compute-06.internal (phl-compute-06.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailfhigh.phl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D6014000B2; Thu, 21 May 2026 11:50:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-frontend-03 ([10.202.2.162]) by phl-compute-06.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 21 May 2026 11:50:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alyssa.is; h=cc :cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm2; t=1779378650; x=1779465050; bh=GEpoU36qxD RswPTZnhsiJMXJaGgD2Y7Hz0dMQ9/oGGY=; b=AHYvt62FKEW66+7hK4CyZb+iv+ z+JZ+DJYLPJhO1eVhTWCatSmpkfvzQHPDyV8/naxCZ0Y/SOwwMf/JM7uxnsO+Zs9 V5XvXRfFFIFMPFX5pmQ+yIkBrc8Jig0eXBvdT73goE9zjDA9TetwBKQCa2OTmnG3 9hO/DwlSZNkbdUrGeN7JNTL0IfALtY29o10P4bOnjo8kSrgkKRnjqaltgF/rOAk4 g0huD9uoEbHT/xVgt8NOYduZLdJNIzmLtHdU2w60v/1aIIbberlAts26sG/p2BK2 PH/UZWS/cnSGfW0wHAIld4wIcuFQS55LAk2VhysvvWAljt4fLd2MjEj3neGQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t= 1779378650; x=1779465050; bh=GEpoU36qxDRswPTZnhsiJMXJaGgD2Y7Hz0d MQ9/oGGY=; b=UPsRx9ot8afI+n7SI6XlsqmoRZDvHzDYVYWVrjc8d1PDeJ2jNWP /TvkRmNlyHr3B76hc5sSz71R6/ftTGZhy990gkBYOKvyI4MhK8SqsYgLhBmBgiqE vUOGZ3Cpdtb94zf6ZJTh5juLnXTy1H6Xa9HII+bhn3FW2LKwMYBzInYgLuay+2w9 VMuTSjW9pToL201KDp3VBvoGVtn9Indly6Sf0dL7uGaS6R/cCCgUXJBILouGx03Q l8+uu+8Ad5UqQSbZcpDqIqKAyQVbdAaasU1/R6G+xVLb4qx+FlsfNPdtet8zlMrU wSqDw5kVMdjXAG7t2IcPePom4GPjLl72/0A== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefhedrtddtgddugeejleduucetufdoteggodetrf dotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgenuceu rghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujf gurhephffvvefujghffffkgggtsehgtderredttddtnecuhfhrohhmpeetlhihshhsrgcu tfhoshhsuceohhhisegrlhihshhsrgdrihhsqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeeiudffue eilefgtefgtddttdekkeehkefgheekudefveetgeefiefftedvteeuveenucevlhhushht vghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehhihesrghlhihsshgrrd hishdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepvddpmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouhhtpdhrtghpthhtohep uggvmhhiohgsvghnohhurhesghhmrghilhdrtghomhdprhgtphhtthhopeguvghvvghlse hsphgvtghtrhhumhdqohhsrdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i12284293:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 21 May 2026 11:50:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mbp.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 90BB08171DFB; Thu, 21 May 2026 17:50:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Alyssa Ross To: Demi Marie Obenour Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Disable panel self-refresh on AMD GPUs In-Reply-To: References: <20260520-disable-panel-self-refresh-v1-1-dbc6ff6617c8@gmail.com> <20260520-disable-panel-self-refresh-v2-1-959c8ac37078@gmail.com> <87jyswdiwa.fsf@alyssa.is> Date: Thu, 21 May 2026 17:50:47 +0200 Message-ID: <87h5o0vk14.fsf@alyssa.is> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Message-ID-Hash: Z5IFGQ2T5WPVZVSQHVHYUICDD6UR3KCL X-Message-ID-Hash: Z5IFGQ2T5WPVZVSQHVHYUICDD6UR3KCL X-MailFrom: hi@alyssa.is X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-0; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-1; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-2; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-3; header-match-devel.spectrum-os.org-4; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Spectrum OS Development X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and low-level development discussion Archived-At: <> List-Archive: <> List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Demi Marie Obenour writes: > On 5/21/26 08:52, Alyssa Ross wrote: >> Demi Marie Obenour writes: >>=20 >>> KDE Linux has already done this. It works around a long-running bug in >>> the AMD GPU driver, which I believe also affects my test laptop. >>> Without the workaround, the system freezes and does not recover until a >>> hard reboot. >>=20 >> You tested this on your test laptop and it solved the problem? > > I didn't test it on my own hardware. After having spent so long on > Cloud Hypervisor, I'm having to set myself up for Spectrum development > again, and that is taking a little bit of time. > > However, the symptoms are identical to what many others have seen: > a freeze that needs a hard reboot to recover from. > >> Did you manually work around the card0/card1 bug? > > That bug would cause Weston to fail to start, but not to freeze > once started. Right, but you'd have to get past it to even observe this problem, wouldn't you? So I'm not sure anybody would actually be affected by this currently. >> Do the proposed upstream patches also solve the problem? > > I do not know, but they aren't in any stable kernel release yet, and > KDE decided they weren't willing to wait for them. I don't think it > makes sense for Spectrum to wait, either. > > The bug breaks Spectrum on what I suspect is a significant amount > of hardware. Panel self-refresh is a completely optional feature > that only saves a small amount of power. > > I'm inclined to trust the KWin developers' judgement on this. > If KDE Linux reverts this change, I will send a patch to revert it > in Spectrum. > --=20 > Sincerely, > Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQRV/neXydHjZma5XLJbRZGEIw/wogUCag8p1wAKCRBbRZGEIw/w opXFAP9lCjfBUqIC4RYcY2RL+CkRS18Gc/KcQEA83GVQPW9UVQD+Nwd/WB7sNF5u +f1Sgmo1fXrIHrYwxIqH/9Ot8wL/bw0= =bqd+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--