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From: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
To: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>, devel@spectrum-os.org
Cc: Yureka Lilian <yureka@cyberchaos.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] tools/router: use socket activation
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2025 11:55:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zf7rkjqr.fsf@alyssa.is> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19d28a41-3016-40f0-aa2b-d7500798cec2@gmail.com>

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Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:

> On 12/8/25 19:38, Alyssa Ross wrote:
>> This means we can use readiness notification to wait until the sockets
>> are created without having to add special functionality for that to
>> the router program, and also means we can do extra system-specific
>> setup to the sockets, like changing their owners, outside of the
>> router.
>> 
>> Since the socket paths were the only arguments taken by the router,
>> this also lets us drop the clap dependency entirely.
>
> I strongly recommend open-coding the file descriptor stuff instead
> of using a third-party library for it.  It's just a two calls to
> getsockopt() (SO_DOMAIN and SO_TYPE) per socket, and listenfd pulls
> in wasm-bindgen and js-sys!

It pulls in wasm-bindgen and js-sys if you're building for those
platforms, which we are not.  An inert mention in Cargo.lock is not a
problem.  The only dependency of listenfd in our context (checked via
cargo tree) is on libc, which is already a dependency of tokio.

I've implemented systemd socket activation in Rust before, and it's not
at all nice, even with libsystemd.  listenfd adds 295 extra lines of
code in total.  I think that's worth it.

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-09 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-09  0:38 [PATCH 1/3] tools/router: use socket activation Alyssa Ross
2025-12-09  0:38 ` [PATCH 2/3] host/rootfs: put router app sockets in own dir Alyssa Ross
2025-12-09  0:38 ` [PATCH 3/3] host/rootfs: run router as non-root Alyssa Ross
2025-12-09 10:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] tools/router: use socket activation Demi Marie Obenour
2025-12-09 10:55   ` Alyssa Ross [this message]
2025-12-09 10:59     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-12-09 11:01       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-12-09 11:04         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-12-09 11:04         ` Alyssa Ross
2025-12-09 11:25           ` Demi Marie Obenour

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