From: "Mantas Mikulėnas" <grawity@gmail.com>
To: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
Cc: systemd development <systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Spectrum OS Development <devel@spectrum-os.org>
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] Non-idempotent RUN+= scripts
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 20:46:45 +0300 [thread overview]
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On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 8:27 PM Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
wrote:
> There are cases where a RUN+= script needs to do something
> exactly once each time a device appears, such as binding a
> different driver to the device. If the udev rule matches
> based on a property (such as PCI device information) that
> is set only by the kernel, is it okay to use ACTION=="add"
> in the rule? The only other options I know of are to either
>
Such events can still be caused by the admin doing "udevadm trigger
--action=". Not sure why one might do that, but probably better to not rely
on nobody doing that.
>
> 1. Add additional code to the script to make sure it is
> idempotent. This might require adding a lock.
>
Maybe not necessarily a lock as I *think* udev event processing is
serialized (for a given device at least); a flag file in /run or an xattr
on the /dev node might be enough.
>
> 2. Use a persistent daemon.
>
It might be possible to have a persistent Type=oneshot .service via
ENV{SYSTEMD_WANTS}, with RefuseManualStop. Not sure if that's a good idea.
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Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-24 17:26 Non-idempotent RUN+= scripts Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-24 17:46 ` Mantas Mikulėnas [this message]
2025-09-24 20:46 ` [systemd-devel] " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-25 4:30 ` Andrei Borzenkov
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