From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.3 (2019-12-06) on atuin.qyliss.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.3 Received: by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 496) id B38452C8C2; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABA32C856; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 496) id BDB692C8A0; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp37.i.mail.ru (smtp37.i.mail.ru [94.100.177.97]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD6C52C89F for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:27:13 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail3; h=Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-type:Mime-Version:REFERENCES:IN-REPLY-TO:Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:From:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:To:Cc; bh=J8VSeNYKtLZx9FPoozm/nqj4QWl1a/GCcX4Tyxvqpho=; b=TPzO3TyWfdsVZoZDZwlu/gOyyWyKhobI2FzC9JaXrk3nO3D7D8pLl3qdvLMCM2dTlQVWpVAcJgxxWhVk8u7ZFF1msYDMwOWy1FVR7VWM8+c7F6LynzMJoVFgl82t0t8Pvfb6umYriqNbBtkbD/48d4R4q9YMyn2noCEtpeClIW4=; Received: by smtp37.i.mail.ru with esmtpa (envelope-from <7c6f434c@mail.ru>) id 1kgVjD-0000Xy-VM; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:27:12 +0300 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 17:34:15 +0100 From: Michael Raskin <7c6f434c@mail.ru> To: hi@alyssa.is, devel@spectrum-os.org Subject: [PATCH www 2/1] design.html: mention aarch64 as well as x86_64 X-Mailer: cl-smtp (SBCL 2.0.8.nixos) IN-REPLY-TO: <20201121152314.15152-1-hi@alyssa.is> REFERENCES: (<20201121152314.15152-1-hi@alyssa.is> . <20201121152314.15152-1-hi@alyssa.is> <20201118120116.21390-1-hi@alyssa.is>) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Authentication-Results: smtp37.i.mail.ru; auth=pass smtp.auth=7c6f434c@mail.ru smtp.mailfrom=7c6f434c@mail.ru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eAau8CL7WIMRKs4sN3D3tLDjz0dLbV79QFUyzQ2Ujvy7cMT6pYYqY16iZVKkSc3dCLJ7zSJH7+u4VD18S7Vl4ZUrpaVfd2+vE6kuoey4m4VkSEu530nj6fImhcD4MUrOEAnl0W826KZ9Q+tr5ycPtXkTV4k65bRjmOUUP8cvGozZ33TWg5HZplvhhXbhDGzqmQDTd6OAevLeAnq3Ra9uf7zvY2zzsIhlcp/Y7m53TZgf2aB4JOg4gkr2biojnr/6ZBWz/5kK+V9SwHhfsA== X-Mailru-Sender: 35B75D2CAA45F3130BB9478DFF6488F20A0418122997547AAC32742617CF08C6F2D8EB02FD139D1C286CF1FB17F948F1E66B5C1DBFD5D09D5BDABB69D8D2C502C003600472B6CB9B67EA787935ED9F1B X-Mras: Ok Message-ID-Hash: 75Z6GV3MIDGIAVM6JQFR77PJVMQVHC5A X-Message-ID-Hash: 75Z6GV3MIDGIAVM6JQFR77PJVMQVHC5A X-MailFrom: 7c6f434c@mail.ru X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-config-1; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header CC: mm@m-squa.red X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: 7c6f434c@mail.ru List-Id: Patches and low-level development discussion Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: >I'd like to continue to link to x86 Considered Harmful somewhere in >the text, but couldn't figure out how to fit it in since there's not >really anywhere I'm talking about x86 specifically rather than all >architectures. I'd appreciate suggestions for how I might do that. I think it is nice to have =C2=ABwhy not ARM=C2=BB and =C2=ABwhy not x86*=C2=BB sections when you have an implementation that you are justifying, and no doubts on the way-cheaper attack level (there must be a memory attack on Sway given a hijacked browser, mustn't there be?) Right now, you getting a restful break is more useful than picking=20 wording on choices Spectrum cannot yet afford to make. [horrible mis-implementation of user hostility is worse than no implementation, perfect implementations do nto exist] >

> I would like Spectrum to additionally have first class support for at Looks fine >+cannot be inspected and audited. One of the advantages of Spectrum's >+Linux base is the extremely wide hardware support that Linux offers, >+so the only blocker for POWER9 support is support in crosvm for >+virtualizing that architecture, which is outside the expertise of >+anybody currently working on Spectrum but would be a very welcome >+contribution. Looks frank and true >

>-Ideally, all Spectrum packages, x86_64 and ppc64le, would be built on >+Ideally, all Spectrum packages, for all architectures, would be built on= > POWER9 hardware. Even if a user has to trust the x86_64 computer _Ideally_ on diverse hardware with more than one transparent-ish=20 platform, because lack of blobs to load does not mean lack of backed-in vulnerable functionality. Open POWER9 cores help, but do not prove=20 faithful implementation on a specific chip in your hands, all that=20 stuff. I would put as=20 =C2=AB Ideally, all Spectrum packages, for all architectures, would be built on diverse hardware including a platform with POWER9 level of openness. =C2=BB But, again, this a bridge to burn once it is crossed, or something.