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From: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
To: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
Cc: Spectrum OS Development <devel@spectrum-os.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/20] Add /dev/fd and /dev/std*
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 14:12:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a0bebb66-1ae9-45fe-aa2b-1012b63872d7@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h5xdjo9p.fsf@alyssa.is>


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On 9/8/25 05:18, Alyssa Ross wrote:
> Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> This is the same as 14483e1a690c (img/app: add /dev/fd and /dev/std*),
>> but for the host and for vm/sys/net.  While only Spectrum-provided code
>> should run in these VMs, third-party dependencies of Spectrum might
>> assume these links exist, and them being missing could cause severe
>> bugs.  For instance, code writing to /dev/stdout could create a file in
>> /dev rather than actually writing to stdout.
>>
>> In the host, the links are added in the initramfs.  Since /dev is
>> created by the kernel and moved (via mount --move) from the initramfs to
>> the main system, adding the links in the main system is not necessary
>> and in fact would fail.
>>
>> Also reorder the moving of /sys, /proc, and /dev from the initramfs to
>> the root filesystem to minimize the time that /dev and /proc are not
>> mounted.  /proc is considered more important than /dev.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
> 
> This is really two independent patches in one as well.

Will fix.

>> ---
>>  host/initramfs/etc/init                      | 7 ++++++-
>>  vm/sys/net/etc/s6-linux-init/scripts/rc.init | 5 +++++
>>  2 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/host/initramfs/etc/init b/host/initramfs/etc/init
>> index 719488741b6d31564c2c17c0e41f15d16b1c0a08..b72108ab96630e2a846063551772b0b29ca27bdf 100755
>> --- a/host/initramfs/etc/init
>> +++ b/host/initramfs/etc/init
>> @@ -6,6 +6,11 @@ export PATH /bin
>>  
>>  if { mount -a }
>>  
>> +if { ln -s /proc/self/fd /dev }
>> +if { ln -s /proc/self/fd/0 /dev/stdin }
>> +if { ln -s /proc/self/fd/1 /dev/stdout }
>> +if { ln -s /proc/self/fd/2 /dev/stderr }
>> +
> 
> Would prefer to do this in host/rootfs, in the interest of not creating
> more implicit requirements on initramfs in that system.  initramfs is
> deterministic enough that it's vanishingly unlikely we'll find that it
> requires these only sometimes.

Is there a plan to run Spectrum OS without an initramfs?
If not, then adding these can only help and cannot hurt.

>>  piperw 3 4
>>  if { fdmove 1 4 /etc/getuuids }
>>  fdclose 4
>> @@ -45,9 +50,9 @@ background { rm /dev/rootfs /dev/verity }
>>  if { mount /dev/mapper/root-verity /mnt/root }
>>  wait { $mdevd_pid }
>>  
>> -if { mount --move /proc /mnt/root/proc }
>>  if { mount --move /sys /mnt/root/sys }
>>  if { mount --move /dev /mnt/root/dev }
>> +if { mount --move /proc /mnt/root/proc }
> 
> I don't understand this.  There are no other processes running, so how
> could the order possibly matter?  There's nothing to race against.

Does Busybox switch_root already move these mounts?
I know util-linux switch_root does.

>>  switch_root /mnt/root
>>  /etc/init
>> diff --git a/vm/sys/net/etc/s6-linux-init/scripts/rc.init b/vm/sys/net/etc/s6-linux-init/scripts/rc.init
>> index 1016d0c62bc6103bc9e865a389f5d482ef6c2b76..eaf037ec123afcaeafced93096c4f35c2388f385 100755
>> --- a/vm/sys/net/etc/s6-linux-init/scripts/rc.init
>> +++ b/vm/sys/net/etc/s6-linux-init/scripts/rc.init
>> @@ -2,6 +2,11 @@
>>  # SPDX-License-Identifier: EUPL-1.2+
>>  # SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2020-2022 Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
>>  
>> +if { ln -s /proc/self/fd /dev }
>> +if { ln -s /proc/self/fd/0 /dev/stdin }
>> +if { ln -s /proc/self/fd/1 /dev/stdout }
>> +if { ln -s /proc/self/fd/2 /dev/stderr }
>> +
>>  if { s6-rc-init -c /etc/s6-rc /run/service }
>>  
>>  if { mkdir -p /dev/pts /dev/shm }
>>
>> -- 
>> 2.51.0


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Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-08 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-04 21:26 [PATCH 00/20] Many image fixes and systemd integration Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 01/20] scripts/make-erofs.sh: Ensure that / is world-readable Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  8:21   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 02/20] scripts/make-erofs.sh: Do not read one byte at a time Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  8:23   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 16:57     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-09 15:19       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 03/20] scripts/make-erofs.sh: Avoid unneeded calls to awk and chmod Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  8:28   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 17:14     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-10 18:45       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 04/20] scripts/make-erofs.sh: Validate all paths Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  8:36   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:21     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-10 18:54       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-21 12:09         ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 05/20] scripts/make-erofs.sh: Avoid unneeded calls to dirname Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-10 20:04   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-10 20:06     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-19 16:47   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-19 19:04     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 06/20] scripts/make-erofs.sh: Avoid unneeded calls to mkdir Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  8:39   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 07/20] scripts/make-erofs.sh: Standardize file modes in images Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  8:46   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 17:16     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-19 17:50   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-19 19:18     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-21 12:23       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 08/20] Standardize directories and symlinks " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  8:59   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:05     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-19 17:53       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 09/20] Add os-release file Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:12   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:07     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 10/20] host/rootfs: Set -eu in build Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:13   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:08     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 11/20] Add /dev/fd and /dev/std* Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:18   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:12     ` Demi Marie Obenour [this message]
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 12/20] host/rootfs: Do not read from /dev/tty1 Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:19   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:18     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-19 18:22       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-19 19:00         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-21  9:01           ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 13/20] host/rootfs: pass API socket as fd 3, not fd 0 Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:44   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 14/20] host/rootfs: Disable unneeded BusyBox tools Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:24   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 15/20] host/rootfs: Use real less, not BusyBox less Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:25   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:16     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-19 18:45       ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-19 19:01         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-21  9:02           ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 16/20] host/rootfs: explicitly set PATH in network add script Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 17/20] Use /etc/s6-rc/compiled for compiled s6-rc directory Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:27   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-08 18:15     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 18/20] host/rootfs: virtiofsd: Do not use FD 0 as the socket Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-08  9:44   ` Alyssa Ross
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 19/20] host/rootfs: Disable unneeded busybox stuff Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 21:26 ` [PATCH 20/20] host/rootfs: Switch to systemd Demi Marie Obenour

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