From: Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com>
To: "Demi Marie Obenour" <demiobenour@gmail.com>,
"Mantas Mikulėnas" <grawity@gmail.com>
Cc: systemd development <systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Spectrum OS Development <devel@spectrum-os.org>
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] Non-idempotent RUN+= scripts
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2025 07:30:17 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bfbf2bc5-f15a-4014-a4fe-204ea157748c@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <290988e7-6a18-43b7-bd90-4e518f463c5c@gmail.com>
24.09.2025 23:46, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> On 9/24/25 13:46, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 8:27 PM Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There are cases where a RUN+= script needs to do something
>>> exactly once each time a device appears, such as binding a
>>> different driver to the device. If the udev rule matches
>>> based on a property (such as PCI device information) that
>>> is set only by the kernel, is it okay to use ACTION=="add"
>>> in the rule? The only other options I know of are to either
>>>
>>
>> Such events can still be caused by the admin doing "udevadm trigger
>> --action=". Not sure why one might do that, but probably better to not rely
>> on nobody doing that.
>
> In *this* case that should never happen, as Spectrum OS's host
> is basically an appliance and ideally nobody would be able to
> run commands like that.
>
systemd-udev-trigger.service does it
> Will an ACTION=="add" event always come before any other events?
>
>>> 1. Add additional code to the script to make sure it is
>>> idempotent. This might require adding a lock.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe not necessarily a lock as I *think* udev event processing is
>> serialized (for a given device at least); a flag file in /run or an xattr
>> on the /dev node might be enough.
>
> These are PCI devices with no driver. The difficulty with a flag file
> is that it needs to be reliably removed.
>
You may try adding device property and importing it in events (IMPORT{db}).
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-25 4:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-24 17:26 Non-idempotent RUN+= scripts Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-24 17:46 ` [systemd-devel] " Mantas Mikulėnas
2025-09-24 20:46 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-25 4:30 ` Andrei Borzenkov [this message]
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