From: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
To: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
Cc: Spectrum OS Development <devel@spectrum-os.org>
Subject: Re: Why is /run/vm/by-id/${VM} writable by the VMM?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 16:11:38 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ce576600-60f1-4288-b995-58c4fd3605cb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87se5cl45p.fsf@alyssa.is>
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On 7/21/26 12:05, Alyssa Ross wrote:
> Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 7/15/26 14:54, Alyssa Ross wrote:
>>> Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 7/13/26 05:04, Alyssa Ross wrote:
>>>>> Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This seems to be a fairly significant hole in the VMM's sandbox.
>>>>>> Various code operates in that directory and isn't secure against
>>>>>> symlink attacks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the VMM really need write access to that directory? Could it
>>>>>> be given access to a subdirectory that is mounted "nosymfollow"?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's just so it can create e.g. the serial file. That could
>>>>> indeed be moved to a subdirectory. The ideal solution is of course for
>>>>> Cloud Hypervisor to be able to accept every file it would otherwise
>>>>> create as an open file descriptor, which I expect will happen
>>>>> eventually.
>>>>
>>>> Should it be moved to a subdirectory for now? That would make the
>>>> sandbox meaningful in practice.
>>>
>>> I suppose it could be. Might make more sense to dedicate efforts
>>> towards fixing Cloud Hypervisor to accept file descriptors for the ~2
>>> paths it currently needs to create, though. (That's obviously more
>>> work, but also more useful.) If we were to work around this in
>>> Spectrum, we could keep symlinks outside the directory pointing into it,
>>> to keep paths nice and avoid churn once we can put them back in the
>>> parent directory.
>>
>> Do you happen to know which paths these are?
>
> I think it might just be "serial"? Not sure.
How difficult would it be to modify Cloud Hypervisor so this is passed
as a file descriptor?
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Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)
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Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-11 19:04 Why is /run/vm/by-id/${VM} writable by the VMM? Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-13 9:04 ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-13 17:00 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-15 18:54 ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-16 17:06 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-21 16:05 ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-21 20:11 ` Demi Marie Obenour [this message]
2026-07-22 8:18 ` Alyssa Ross
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