From: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
To: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
Cc: Spectrum OS Development <devel@spectrum-os.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 17:16:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd7b6b83-2ab9-45ad-b08d-22b39647a7d0@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87seiyg6w2.fsf@alyssa.is>
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On 7/14/25 10:54, Alyssa Ross wrote:
> Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> WirePlumber is completely overkill as a session manager here, and
>> ideally a trivial session manager would be used instead. I did build a
>> Spectrum OS image and found that PipeWire and WirePlumber both
>> successfully started. PipeWire is configured to listen on the
>> PulseAudio socket, so PulseAudio compatibility works. This does inject
>> a large number of completely unnecessary files into the VM, notably for
>> libcamera and Bluetooth support.
>
> Yeah, I saw this in the log:
>
> N 14:27:54.810067 wp-internal-comp-l ../lib/wp/private/internal-comp-loader.c:588:on_component_loaded: <WpCore:0x28d95d30> optional component 'support.logind [module: libwireplumber-module-logind]' failed to load: failed to start systemd logind monitor: -2 (No such file or directory)
> N 14:27:54.811299 wp-internal-comp-l ../lib/wp/private/internal-comp-loader.c:640:wp_component_array_load_task_execute_step: <WpCore:0x28d95d30> skipping component 'monitor.bluez.seat-monitoring [virtual]' because some of its dependencies were not loaded
> E 14:27:54.851210 spa.dbus ../spa/plugins/support/dbus.c:333:impl_connection_get: Failed to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
> E 14:27:54.852143 spa.bluez5 ../spa/plugins/bluez5/bluez5-dbus.c:6632:impl_init: failed to get dbus connection
> N 14:27:54.855904 wp-device ../lib/wp/device.c:710:wp_spa_device_new_from_spa_factory: SPA handle 'api.bluez5.enum.dbus' could not be loaded; is it installed?
> N 14:27:54.856657 s-monitors bluez.lua:411:createMonitor: PipeWire's BlueZ SPA plugin is missing or broken. Bluetooth devices will not be supported.
> E 14:27:54.859091 spa.bluez5.midi ../spa/plugins/bluez5/midi-enum.c:805:impl_init: Creating GDBus connection failed: Could not connect: No such file or directory
> N 14:27:54.859810 wp-device ../lib/wp/device.c:710:wp_spa_device_new_from_spa_factory: SPA handle 'api.bluez5.midi.enum' could not be loaded; is it installed?
> N 14:27:54.860524 s-monitors bluez-midi.lua:95:createMonitor: PipeWire's BlueZ MIDI SPA missing or broken. Bluetooth not supported.
> E 14:27:54.861346 spa.bluez5.midi.no ../spa/plugins/bluez5/midi-node.c:1989:impl_init: failed to get dbus connection: Could not connect: No such file or directory
> E 14:27:54.862435 pw.resource ../src/pipewire/resource.c:255:pw_resource_errorf_id: can't create node: Input/output error
> W 14:27:54.863275 wp-node ../lib/wp/node.c:913:wp_impl_node_new_from_pw_factory: failed to create node from factory 'spa-node-factory'
> N 14:27:54.863965 s-monitors bluez-midi.lua:130:createServers: Failed to create BLE MIDI server.
> [0:00:01.314658075] [123] INFO IPAManager ipa_manager.cpp:137 libcamera is not installed. Adding '/nix/store/src/ipa' to the IPA search path
> [0:00:01.321611889] [123] INFO Camera camera_manager.cpp:326 libcamera v0.5.0
>
> Can we set something in a config file or something to disable this extra
> stuff?
I'm working on it, but I ran into a problem: I can't install vim in the guest!
Adding it to the list of packages doesn't work; I still don't have a Vim binary
in the guest. Without that, I have to rebuild the VM every time I want to make
a change, which makes it very hard to iterate while I figure out how to make
PipeWire talk to an emulated virtio-sound device QEMU provides.
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Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-16 21:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-11 2:44 [PATCH v3] Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-14 14:54 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-15 20:22 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-16 10:26 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-16 21:16 ` Demi Marie Obenour [this message]
2025-07-16 21:27 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-18 12:16 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-17 5:53 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-18 10:02 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-18 10:19 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-18 2:07 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Sound support in Spectrum VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-18 2:13 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] Rebuild the root filesystem when the makefile changes Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-18 11:14 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-18 2:13 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] Fix permissions on /tmp Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-18 11:51 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-18 11:51 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-18 11:53 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-18 2:14 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-18 11:27 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-18 17:59 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-19 9:22 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-19 20:05 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-19 8:06 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-19 20:03 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-19 20:07 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-20 7:50 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-20 17:58 ` [PATCH v5 0/8] Sound support in Spectrum VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-20 18:02 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] Revert "img/app: fix permissions on /tmp" Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-21 9:34 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] img/app: Use separate service to create directories Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-21 9:21 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-22 23:48 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-20 18:04 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] img/app: Fix permissions of /tmp/.X11-unix Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-20 18:05 ` [PATCH v5 4/8] img/app: Create other X11 directories Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-21 9:23 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-21 19:03 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-20 18:06 ` [PATCH v5 5/8] img/app: Be explicit about directory modes Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-20 18:08 ` [PATCH v5 6/8] img/app: create /run/user and /run/wait very early in boot Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-21 9:23 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-20 18:10 ` [PATCH v5 7/8] host/rootfs: " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-20 18:11 ` [PATCH v5 8/8] img/app: Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-21 9:42 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-21 19:09 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-26 10:11 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-21 19:10 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-24 22:15 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Sound support in Spectrum VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-24 22:30 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] host/rootfs: Create /run/user and /run/wait via run-image Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-26 10:46 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-24 22:32 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] img/app: " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-24 22:33 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] img/app: tell mount(8) to create directories Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-26 11:20 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-26 11:26 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-24 22:35 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] img/app: Create needed directories in early boot Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-26 10:24 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-27 20:13 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-24 22:36 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] img/app: Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-26 11:29 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-26 10:57 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Sound support in Spectrum VMs Alyssa Ross
2025-07-28 5:57 ` [PATCH v7 0/2] " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-28 6:01 ` [PATCH v7 1/2] img/app: Create needed directories in early boot Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-28 6:03 ` [PATCH v7 2/2] img/app: Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-28 6:18 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-28 23:13 ` [PATCH v8 0/2] Sound support in Spectrum VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-29 0:32 ` [PATCH v9 " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-29 0:33 ` [PATCH v9 1/2] img/app: Create needed directories in early boot Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-29 12:44 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-29 0:33 ` [PATCH v9 2/2] img/app: Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-29 13:08 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-29 21:17 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-30 8:10 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-30 9:59 ` [PATCH v10] " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-31 9:12 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-31 9:40 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-31 17:06 ` [PATCH v11] " Demi Marie Obenour
2025-08-01 17:53 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-08-02 7:54 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-28 23:13 ` [PATCH v8 1/2] img/app: Create needed directories in early boot Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-28 23:19 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-28 23:13 ` [PATCH v8 2/2] img/app: Run PipeWire and WirePlumber in the VMs Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-29 12:41 ` [PATCH v7 0/2] Sound support in Spectrum VMs Alyssa Ross
2025-07-24 22:23 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] host/rootfs: Create /run/user and /run/wait via run-image Demi Marie Obenour
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