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From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
To: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
Cc: systemd development <systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>,
	Spectrum OS Development <devel@spectrum-os.org>
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] Arranging groups of services
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2025 19:31:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <no7nek2m5l55yk6btb27dy5xfxafydvpoaomg6jwihq6wodkfo@275gmhwlfk63> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ebec7d90-76b5-40f2-8eeb-3005609b2b48@gmail.com>

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Hello.

On Sat, Aug 16, 2025 at 07:11:32PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> wrote:
> If the Cloud Hypervisor instance is stopped or exits, the others
> should be stopped automatically, as they have no other use.
> Having BindsTo=, After=, PropagatesStopTo=, and PropagatesReloadTo=
> should handle most cases, but I don't know if that is sufficient
> if Cloud Hypervisor exits spontaneously (because the guest shut down)
> or crashes.

Maybe
vm.service
Wants=crosvm.service ... xdf-desktop-portal.service

and each of the supporive services would have
StopWhenUnneeded=true


> Additionally, these services have different sandboxing needs.
> Cloud Hypervisor should only be able to connect to its own instance
> of the daemons that serve it, rather than to any instance.
> crosvm needs GPU and Wayland access and vhost-device-sound needs
> to connect to PipeWire.  virtiofsd needs an id-mapped mount.
> I would also like to block abstract AF_UNIX socket access.


> Are there existing systemd features that can easily meet these
> needs?

See JoinsNamespaceOf= (systemd.unit(5)) whether it'd cover your usage.

HTH,
Michal

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-04 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-16 23:11 Arranging groups of services Demi Marie Obenour
2025-09-04 17:31 ` Michal Koutný [this message]
2025-09-05 16:49 ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering

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