From: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
To: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>,
Spectrum OS Development <devel@spectrum-os.org>
Subject: Re: Cannot build release.nix without KVM
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 16:40:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <oc6c7oaga7f355z3aeizzfsirqmjvqe3q6wymhz4yofn6kgzta@picemonpfg3s> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y0sph3fd.fsf@alyssa.is>
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1958 bytes --]
Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is> writes:
> Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is> writes:
>
>> Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On a Qubes OS VM (which doesn't have nested virtualization), building
>>> release.nix fails because start-vmm-test (rightly) errors out. Having
>>> KVM be a *build*-time dependency of Spectrum OS seems rather strict,
>>> especially because I can always copy the generated files over to another
>>> machine and run them there. In particular, I can copy the resulting image
>>> and run it in QEMU.
>>
>> Ah, I've made a mistake here I think. KVM shouldn't be a build
>> dependency, because the Scaleway aarch64 builders used to populate the
>> binary cache don't have it. It's only recently that release.nix
>> includes start-vmm-test, so I haven't run those builders since, and
>> hadn't noticed it.
>>
>> One option would be to introduce a build configuration[1] option that
>> just disables any tests that need KVM. Another would be to run those
>> tests inside QEMU TCG if KVM is available, which would have the benefit
>> of the tests still running (and not introducing more config options). I
>> wonder what the most lightweight way to optionally run some code in a
>> TCG VM would be…
>>
>> [1]: https://spectrum-os.org/doc/development/build-configuration.html
>
> Sadly the obvious solution of running it under QEMU user emulation
> doesn't work…
>
> https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu/-/issues/871
… and even if it did, QEMU user emulation doesn't implement the KVM API.
Anyway, I've come to the conclusion that since start-vmm-test isn't
testing anything that isn't covered by the integration tests we recently
gained (which run a full Spectrum system in QEMU, and can therefore use
TCG), it can just be removed, and I've now done so. I think that means
that everything can now be built without KVM, so the problem is solved
for now. (Let me know if not.)
[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 228 bytes --]
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-17 14:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-14 5:38 Cannot build release.nix without KVM Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-14 10:30 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-15 15:36 ` Alyssa Ross
2025-07-17 14:40 ` Alyssa Ross [this message]
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=oc6c7oaga7f355z3aeizzfsirqmjvqe3q6wymhz4yofn6kgzta@picemonpfg3s \
--to=hi@alyssa.is \
--cc=demiobenour@gmail.com \
--cc=devel@spectrum-os.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox
https://spectrum-os.org/git/crosvm
https://spectrum-os.org/git/doc
https://spectrum-os.org/git/mktuntap
https://spectrum-os.org/git/nixpkgs
https://spectrum-os.org/git/spectrum
https://spectrum-os.org/git/ucspi-vsock
https://spectrum-os.org/git/www
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).