Re: New user getting started questions

Alyssa Ross
2021-11-11T11:10:32Z

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Thomas Leonard <talex5@gmail.com> writes:

> On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 at 12:59, Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is> wrote:
>>
>> Thomas Leonard <talex5@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 at 11:37, Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is> wrote:
> [...]
>> >> Also, I've been following some Qubes work recently, and it sounds like
>> >> they might be interested in doing X11 over Wayland in a way that
>> >> wouldn't need special compositor support (and the corresponding
>> >> potential for security bugs). It sounds like it would be a lot of work
>> >> though, so we'll see…
>> >
>> > Isn't that what Sommelier and wayland-proxy-virtwl are both doing
>> > already though? There's no need for any X11 support in the host
>> > compositor with them.
>>
>> Oh I didn't realise that. So the host compositor doesn't have to
>> implement an X11 window manager and speak back to the Xserver, like it
>> does in a normal XWayland setup[1]?
>
> Correct; the proxy acts as the X11 window manager to Xwayland, and
> just talks plain Wayland to the host. In fact, I managed to work
> around several problems with Sway's built-in Xwayland integration by
> using the proxy instead, even on the host (see
> https://roscidus.com/blog/blog/2021/10/30/xwayland/#bonus-features).
>
>> [1]: https://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/ch05.html#sect-X11-Application-Support-architecture

Ah, I now realise you explained all of this in your blog post. Sorry
for the silly questions!

By the way, I'm very curious about "[com] is a SpectrumOS VM I use for
email, etc.". _I_ don't even consider myself to be running Spectrum,
because as far as I'm concerned there's no integrated system to run yet.
So what's in that VM that you consider to be Spectrum? :)

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