From: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
To: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
Cc: Spectrum OS Development <devel@spectrum-os.org>
Subject: Re: Potential improvements to mount-flatpak
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2026 13:01:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87qzkolmr8.fsf@alyssa.is> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <92ab45ab-a124-4edc-b5ea-d35621ce0e53@gmail.com>
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Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
> On 7/22/26 04:17, Alyssa Ross wrote:
>> Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> - The code doesn't validate the user-provided app ID, resulting in
>>> worse error messages than otherwise possible. App IDs are always
>>> D-Bus well-known names, so there is no risk of the rules changing
>>> in future versions of Flatpak.
>>
>> Even though Flatpak 2 won't use D-Bus?
>
> I think I forgot that. Is there a document with the list of Flatpak
> 2 changes anywhere?
I think the talk from Linux App Summit this year is probably the most
comprehensive thing about it so far.
>> I'm not sure I see the value? Does normal Flatpak do these checks?
>> I don't think we need to check everything that could possibly go wrong
>> if it wouldn't be a security concern.
>
> I don't see any reason either. There is a trick one can do to
> improve worst-case runtime, and that is to not use RESOLVE_BENEATH
> or RESOLVE_IN_ROOT. Instead, one uses RESOLVE_NO_SYMLINKS |
> RESOLVE_NO_MAGICLINKS and checks that the path has no ".." components
> and is not absolute. My understanding is that RESOLVE_BENEATH
> and RESOLVE_IN_ROOT require heavyweight kernel-side checks to guard
> against race conditions, and these can produce false positives.
> The other approach doesn't require these checks and so is more reliable.
> libpathrs resolves this with an ugly retry loop.
>
> It's up to you whether this change is worth making.
Sounds like premature optimization to me. All else equal I'd rather
have code in the kernel than in Spectrum.
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Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-21 20:16 Potential improvements to mount-flatpak Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-22 8:17 ` Alyssa Ross
2026-07-25 6:11 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-27 11:01 ` Alyssa Ross [this message]
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