* [PATCH] host/rootfs: fix vm-console
@ 2026-06-20 19:46 Alyssa Ross
2026-06-21 1:31 ` Demi Marie Obenour
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Alyssa Ross @ 2026-06-20 19:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: devel; +Cc: Yureka Lilian, Demi Marie Obenour
cloud-hypervisor was being run with its own /dev/pts, so vm-console
couldn't find the VM PTY to open it. Furthermore, for Cloud
Hypervisor to actually use the global /dev/pts now that it runs as
non-root, it needs to be able to open /dev/pts/ptmx. ptmxmode=666
matches how systemd mounts /dev/pts.
Fixes: 6138e44a ("host/rootfs: run Cloud Hypervisor as non-root")
Fixes: ec47d362 ("host/rootfs: Sandbox Cloud Hypervisor")
Signed-off-by: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
---
Posting to the list in particular to give a chance to anybody who
wants to tell me the sandboxing should be done a different way.
host/rootfs/image/etc/fstab | 2 +-
host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/run-vmm | 1 +
2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/host/rootfs/image/etc/fstab b/host/rootfs/image/etc/fstab
index 18bb5e45..4d52a1da 100644
--- a/host/rootfs/image/etc/fstab
+++ b/host/rootfs/image/etc/fstab
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
# SPDX-License-Identifier: CC0-1.0
# SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2020-2021, 2025 Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
proc /proc proc nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
-devpts /dev/pts devpts nosuid,noexec,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
+devpts /dev/pts devpts nosuid,noexec,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=666 0 0
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
tmpfs /media tmpfs nosuid,nodev,noexec,nosymfollow,mode=755 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
diff --git a/host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/run-vmm b/host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/run-vmm
index 94199434..6967dc55 100755
--- a/host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/run-vmm
+++ b/host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/run-vmm
@@ -93,6 +93,7 @@ bwrap
--unshare-user
--dev /dev
--dev-bind /dev/kvm /dev/kvm
+ --dev-bind /dev/pts /dev/pts
--dev-bind /dev/vfio /dev/vfio
--tmpfs /dev/shm
--tmpfs /tmp
base-commit: 57bf21eaf65ca5a42d18999ba65f96dcd338113c
--
2.54.0
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* Re: [PATCH] host/rootfs: fix vm-console
2026-06-20 19:46 [PATCH] host/rootfs: fix vm-console Alyssa Ross
@ 2026-06-21 1:31 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-06-24 8:47 ` Alyssa Ross
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Demi Marie Obenour @ 2026-06-21 1:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alyssa Ross, devel; +Cc: Yureka Lilian
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On 6/20/26 15:46, Alyssa Ross wrote:
> cloud-hypervisor was being run with its own /dev/pts, so vm-console
> couldn't find the VM PTY to open it. Furthermore, for Cloud
> Hypervisor to actually use the global /dev/pts now that it runs as
> non-root, it needs to be able to open /dev/pts/ptmx. ptmxmode=666
> matches how systemd mounts /dev/pts.
>
> Fixes: 6138e44a ("host/rootfs: run Cloud Hypervisor as non-root")
> Fixes: ec47d362 ("host/rootfs: Sandbox Cloud Hypervisor")
> Signed-off-by: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
> ---
> Posting to the list in particular to give a chance to anybody who
> wants to tell me the sandboxing should be done a different way.
>
> host/rootfs/image/etc/fstab | 2 +-
> host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/run-vmm | 1 +
> 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/host/rootfs/image/etc/fstab b/host/rootfs/image/etc/fstab
> index 18bb5e45..4d52a1da 100644
> --- a/host/rootfs/image/etc/fstab
> +++ b/host/rootfs/image/etc/fstab
> @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
> # SPDX-License-Identifier: CC0-1.0
> # SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2020-2021, 2025 Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
> proc /proc proc nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
> -devpts /dev/pts devpts nosuid,noexec,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
> +devpts /dev/pts devpts nosuid,noexec,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=666 0 0
> tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
> tmpfs /media tmpfs nosuid,nodev,noexec,nosymfollow,mode=755 0 0
> sysfs /sys sysfs nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
> diff --git a/host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/run-vmm b/host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/run-vmm
> index 94199434..6967dc55 100755
> --- a/host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/run-vmm
> +++ b/host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/run-vmm
> @@ -93,6 +93,7 @@ bwrap
> --unshare-user
> --dev /dev
> --dev-bind /dev/kvm /dev/kvm
> + --dev-bind /dev/pts /dev/pts
> --dev-bind /dev/vfio /dev/vfio
> --tmpfs /dev/shm
> --tmpfs /tmp
>
> base-commit: 57bf21eaf65ca5a42d18999ba65f96dcd338113c
My understanding is that the only reason to use an actual PTY is
to forward dimension changes. Do we really need this, given that
vm-console is only for debugging? As long as the VM has xterm-resize
installed, it's possible to sync the dimensions manually. I'd prefer
to lose dimension change forwarding instead of weakening the sandbox.
This is worse, but it's manageable. I worked in a Qubes VM for quite
a while this way, as I was writing a replacement for the GUI daemon
and so the in-VM GUI was not available when the custom code was not
running (or not working).
A better (and, hopefully, straightforward) solution would be to
carry dimension information in-band using specific escape sequences.
This could either be supported natively in terminal emulators, or
could implemented by a simple proxy otherwise.
--
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)
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* Re: [PATCH] host/rootfs: fix vm-console
2026-06-21 1:31 ` Demi Marie Obenour
@ 2026-06-24 8:47 ` Alyssa Ross
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Alyssa Ross @ 2026-06-24 8:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Demi Marie Obenour; +Cc: Yureka Lilian, devel
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Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com> writes:
> On 6/20/26 15:46, Alyssa Ross wrote:
>> cloud-hypervisor was being run with its own /dev/pts, so vm-console
>> couldn't find the VM PTY to open it. Furthermore, for Cloud
>> Hypervisor to actually use the global /dev/pts now that it runs as
>> non-root, it needs to be able to open /dev/pts/ptmx. ptmxmode=666
>> matches how systemd mounts /dev/pts.
>>
>> Fixes: 6138e44a ("host/rootfs: run Cloud Hypervisor as non-root")
>> Fixes: ec47d362 ("host/rootfs: Sandbox Cloud Hypervisor")
>> Signed-off-by: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
>> ---
>> Posting to the list in particular to give a chance to anybody who
>> wants to tell me the sandboxing should be done a different way.
>>
>> host/rootfs/image/etc/fstab | 2 +-
>> host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/run-vmm | 1 +
>> 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/host/rootfs/image/etc/fstab b/host/rootfs/image/etc/fstab
>> index 18bb5e45..4d52a1da 100644
>> --- a/host/rootfs/image/etc/fstab
>> +++ b/host/rootfs/image/etc/fstab
>> @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
>> # SPDX-License-Identifier: CC0-1.0
>> # SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2020-2021, 2025 Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
>> proc /proc proc nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
>> -devpts /dev/pts devpts nosuid,noexec,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
>> +devpts /dev/pts devpts nosuid,noexec,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=666 0 0
>> tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
>> tmpfs /media tmpfs nosuid,nodev,noexec,nosymfollow,mode=755 0 0
>> sysfs /sys sysfs nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
>> diff --git a/host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/run-vmm b/host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/run-vmm
>> index 94199434..6967dc55 100755
>> --- a/host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/run-vmm
>> +++ b/host/rootfs/image/usr/bin/run-vmm
>> @@ -93,6 +93,7 @@ bwrap
>> --unshare-user
>> --dev /dev
>> --dev-bind /dev/kvm /dev/kvm
>> + --dev-bind /dev/pts /dev/pts
>> --dev-bind /dev/vfio /dev/vfio
>> --tmpfs /dev/shm
>> --tmpfs /tmp
>>
>> base-commit: 57bf21eaf65ca5a42d18999ba65f96dcd338113c
>
> My understanding is that the only reason to use an actual PTY is
> to forward dimension changes. Do we really need this, given that
> vm-console is only for debugging? As long as the VM has xterm-resize
> installed, it's possible to sync the dimensions manually. I'd prefer
> to lose dimension change forwarding instead of weakening the sandbox.
>
> This is worse, but it's manageable. I worked in a Qubes VM for quite
> a while this way, as I was writing a replacement for the GUI daemon
> and so the in-VM GUI was not available when the custom code was not
> running (or not working).
>
> A better (and, hopefully, straightforward) solution would be to
> carry dimension information in-band using specific escape sequences.
> This could either be supported natively in terminal emulators, or
> could implemented by a simple proxy otherwise.
Eventually I would like to just have a terminal emulator inside every
VM, rather than exposing a host terminal emulator to who knows what
weird escape sequences from the VM, so I don't think new protocols to
transmit dimensions would be a good investment. In the meantime,
though, I'd like previously working functionality back. Using a
terminal emulator without size information is absolutely horrible,
because line endings are messed up and long lines become very difficult
to read correctly.
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